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<brain0> licq has a web interface *lol
<phrakture> Venim: just delete the file
<Venim> phrakture, ya i already got that far :)
<phrakture> Venim: be careful with all those updates - there's alot of major ones
<Venim> as long as i'm able to reboot and get quake 4 working i'll be fine :)
<Venim> i'm sure i'll have to do some sort of configuration again but w/e
<phrakture> you might not be able to if you don't keep your eyes open - there is no more devfs
<Venim> oh i've already upgraded to udev
<Venim> did that a long time ago
<phrakture> so /dev/discs/disc0/part2 has to be replaced with /dev/hda2
<phrakture> Venim: just make very sure - even with using udev, devfs was still there and able to complensate - now you'll get some kernel panics
<Venim> wonderful :)
<brain0> you only need to change in grub/lilo config
<brain0> fstab can be done later, as there are compatibility symlinks for devfs
<phrakture> Venim: verify that menu.lst (or lilo.conf) and fstab do not have devfs style paths, and you'll be fine - the rest would be non-fatal
<Venim> humm.... a devfs style path being root=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 :)?
<brain0> yes
<Venim> disc0/part2 would be hda2?
<brain0> just ls -l the file
<Venim> ya blah
<brain0> it's a symlink to hda2 or hdb2 or stuff
<Venim> [msmith@Apocalypse dev]$ file /dev/discs/disc0/part2
<Venim> /dev/discs/disc0/part2: block special (3/2)
<brain0> not file
<Venim> that helped a lot :)
<brain0> ls -l
<Venim> i did ls -l :o
<Venim> brw------- 1 root root 3, 2 1969-12-31 16:00 /dev/discs/disc0/part2
<brain0> wow
<Venim> file just told me the same thing i already knew :o
<brain0> you don't use udev
<phrakture> Venim: you're not using udev
<Venim> i guess not
<Venim> must have been with my last install
<brain0> [thomas@architect ~]$ ls -l /dev/discs/disc0/part2
<brain0> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2005-10-21 17:36 /dev/discs/disc0/part2 -> ../../hda2
<brain0> after next reboot, devfs will be gone anyway
<brain0> :)
<c14n> devfs ****s
<Venim> last time i upgraded to udev it wasnt hard
<brain0> just run migrate-udev before reboot and change the grub paths
<Venim> i think the reason i didnt this time was because of the sound issues i had
<brain0> does arch still work with linux 2.4?
<aficionado> Hi, I have a linux machine on an internal network. What do I need to do so I can access it using it's hostname?
<aficionado> right now I am changing the hosts file on the windows machine but it's getting anonying because whenever I restart I have to change the entry
<Venim> it should stay :o
<Venim> i edited my windows host file via cygwin and it stayed, and worked for noncygwin programs
<aficionado> Venim: talking to me?
<Venim> ya
<WillySilly> gp_aaron: its 2:11PM
<aficionado> Venim: oh, I am talking about restarting the arch machine. I am using DHCP so it gets ***igned a different IP every time
<Venim> </3 dhcp
<aficionado> Venim: the hosts entry stays but isn't valid
<c14n> dhcp ****s]
<Venim> ya i'd imagine so
<aficionado> c14n: I don't think so :)
<c14n> how does it not?
<phrakture> aficionado: don't use dhcp if you want a static ip
<aficionado> c14n: because I haven't had to remember an IP address in a long time!!
<phrakture> aficionado: you want your ip to stay the same so you don't have to change those files
<aficionado> how to the hostnames work... I can my machine on the home network fine with the hostname...
<Venim> aficionado, a sorta nasty workaround could be to make a shell script that ran when the linux machine started. the shell script would ssh into the other machine and change the host file
<Venim> although thats probably overkill for what your trying to do, just turn off dhcp :)
<phrakture> aficionado: your hostname has nothing to do with your IP address - there is no matching unless you're running a DNS server
<aficionado> Venim: actually this is at work so I don't have any say on that :(
<Venim> ah ouch
<phrakture> aficionado: yes you do
<Venim> well then my idea might work heh
<aficionado> aficionado: how?
<phrakture> aficionado: just set your IP outside the dhcp range
<c14n> i leave
<c14n> .100.125 for non-static
<c14n> well in between that range
<c14n> .100-.125
<aficionado> just out of curiosity how do the hostnames work on a local network?
<c14n> then everything on my work network is non-static
<c14n> cause dhcp is horrible
<c14n> my network meaning, work.
<aficionado> I can usually get to my windows machines just with their computer names
<c14n> that's windows
<c14n> netBIOS is scary.
<aficionado> :)
<c14n> scary scary thing
<aficionado> oh, is that what it is?
<gp_aaron> WillySilly, you home now?
<c14n> NetBIOS communication
<c14n> :P
<c14n> lots of netbios exploits
<aficionado> hmm... I guess I need to do some research
<Venim> doesnt the udev naming start at 1 and not 0 like grub?
<c14n> samba uses netbios to communicate it's windows shares.
<c14n> Venim: some people like one
<c14n> standard is 0
<Venim> i.e. hda1 = first partition on disk 1, hda 2= second partition on disk 1 etc
<aficionado> is there something that can broadcast the machine name using NetBIOS for linux?
<c14n> like hda1 (not hda0)
<c14n> cause hda0 would mean the physical disc
<Venim> sooo..... second partition on disk one would be hda2?
<Venim> correct.?
<Venim> blah nm i'll just trial and error it.. made like 5 grub entries
<aficionado> Venim: I think so
<c14n> Venim:
<aficionado> Venim: you can actually see the actual numbers in cfisk
<c14n> Venim: tell me your HDD layout
<c14n> this is the usual scheme
<Venim> c14n, i wish i remembered... i havnt booted into my linux install in a long time
<c14n> dev/XdXXX a 1-6
<phrakture> Venim: is it sata?
<Venim> no. ide
<c14n> 1 /boot 2 / 3 /var 4 extended 5 swap 6 /home
<c14n> :D
<Venim> damn i have lots of bootup options
<Venim> kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 ro video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x31a splash=silent
<Venim> ok not that many i guess
<Venim> but still :)
<Shadowhand> NO NO NO
<Shadowhand> no root=/dev/discs ****
<aficionado> Shadowhand: hahaha
<Venim> umm?
<Shadowhand> root=/dev/hda2 is what it should be
<Venim> oh.. no thats my old entry
<c14n> Yeah.
<Venim> i have like 3 others..
<Shadowhand> ok
<c14n> /dev/hda2.
<Shadowhand> aficionado, :P
<Shadowhand> Venim, are you using a seperate /boot partition?
<Venim> root (hd0,1) ok so that explains it right there
<Venim> its disk 1 partition 2
<Venim> no. its all /
<c14n> disc0
<c14n> :P
<c14n> disk 1 is hd1
<Venim> in grub
<c14n> disk0 is 0,
<c14n> in grub.
<c14n> disk 1 is 1,
<Venim> in linux/udev/whatever it wants to be called its hda
<c14n> disc 0,
<c14n> get it?
<Venim> which is what i was looking for..
<Shadowhand> c14n, in grub, hd0 is disc 1
<Venim> so its time to reboot now basically
<Shadowhand> hd0 = hda
<c14n> Shadowhand: On my motherboard
<c14n> it goes disc 0, disc 1
<c14n> so 0, disc 0.
<Venim> i'm going to try booting my fat32 partition just to see what happens :)
<c14n> disc 1, disc 1
<Shadowhand> no i get it, but hd0 = hda
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