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<jMCg> haven't seen the both online for quite some time O_o
<SleepyDog> Yea, both are long gone.
<AqD> ewww
<vegai> I concur.
<AqD> chinese in wine 0.9 seems broken :(
<dtw> thank god
<AqD> huh?!
<AqD> dtw!
<dtw> I actually posted in the ML about this ABS thing ages agao
<dtw> no replies
<AqD> well is there any better word processor here, commercial or free ?
<AqD> swriter sux :(
<dtw> actually, I have noticed the ML is v quiet at the mo
<AqD> anyone??
<AqD> umm does abiword support quick-save?
<dtw> actually...all my ML mail seems to be getting marked as read...
<AqD> ML?
<AqD> dtw u mean the lang??
<SleepyDog> Mailing List
<AqD> hmmm
<AqD> all right i'm going to try corel wordperfect again
<AqD> but i know it wont work :(
<AqD> ahhhh!!!!
<AqD> why do nobody make good office suite for linux???
<SleepyDog> I think LaTeX is good for word processing, but Openoffice was good enough last time I tried it
<dagnachew> c14n in the house
<AqD> SleepyDog: but i want word compatibility
<dagnachew> hello everyone
<SleepyDog> Openoffice was good enough last time I
<AqD> SleepyDog: and it can't handle big files well
<AqD> SleepyDog: i was using v 2 built myself!
<AqD> hi dagnachew!!
<dtw> dagnachew: are you c14n then?
<dagnachew> hello AqD
<AqD> SleepyDog: 1.it can't do quick-save
<dagnachew> nope
<dagnachew> hello dettow
<SleepyDog> What's quick-save?
<AqD> that sux for my 30MB .odt
<dagnachew> dtw
<AqD> SleepyDog: to save only the changes u make
<dtw> yup?
<AqD> rather than to create a new file
<SleepyDog> ah
<AqD> it's *critical* for huge files we work with
<SleepyDog> What, are you writing a book or something?
<dagnachew> AqD diff
<AqD> writing manual for app we make
<AqD> dagnachew: i hope so!
<AqD> SleepyDog: it has about 300 pages
<dagnachew> AqD lyx
<SleepyDog> :o
<AqD> dagnachew: not compatible
<SleepyDog> dagnachew: lyx is kinda...weird
<AqD> SleepyDog: yes it's basically a book... a huge set of books that can fil up a big box
<AqD> they dont like on-line docs, dunno why
<AqD> silly ancient apes, uh
<dagnachew> AqD you want a gui ? if not vi !!!!!!!!!! is the answer
<AqD> dagnachew: buddy those books need to have pictures
<dagnachew> ancient apes :)
<AqD> and drawings
<SleepyDog> AqD: scary! You guys should use pdf & tex :\. Your company uses windows?
<AqD> yes
<AqD> SleepyDog: yes but it would be hard for most windows users to edit then
<AqD> SleepyDog: u can't tell them to learn
<SleepyDog> hehe
<SleepyDog> I wonder, if one knew neither, which would be easier to learn.
<AqD> lyx
<AqD> lyx is easier
<SleepyDog> lyx is terrible
<AqD> eh?!
<AqD> no ****??
<dtw> Just discovered my email service has changed tehir rule settings and OR kicjed in and was marking my ML messages read
<AqD> i used it once many years ago
<SleepyDog> Well, I didn't like it
<AqD> heh
<dagnachew> lyx can handle I think huge files
<SleepyDog> I just use a plain text editor. You only have to memorize a handful of TeX tags. And you can split up documents into different files
<AqD> SleepyDog: how do u add picturs then?
<AqD> and textbox on pictures
<SleepyDog> AqD: some tag or the other. Dunno it offhand
<AqD> hmmm
<SleepyDog> It's like html for print
<SleepyDog> Okay, must be gone for awhile to do stuff
<AqD> hmmm
<Neur0FX> hey guys.. since there's no wiki on installing kde
<Neur0FX> what would be the quickest way?
<Neur0FX> pacman -S kde
<Neur0FX> and then?
<illuminate> wait.. and wait.. and wait [...] and then start it (and wait again :P)
<iphitus> w00t!
<iphitus> new blog uploaded and working!
<dagnachew> hello Neuro0FX
<dagnachew> how are ya
<dagnachew> welcome to Arch linux
<dagnachew> iphitus link to youre bolg ?
<dagnachew> blog
<iphitus> http://iphitus.loudas.com/blog/index.py
<krix> hey
<Neur0FX> hi dagnachew
<Neur0FX> i got fluxbox working on my arch linux install.. but i'm looking for something that will get me up and running a little faster at the moment
<dagnachew> iphitus your coding stuff is pretty good
<iphitus> thanks
<dagnachew> you speak french ?
<iphitus> not at all :P
<dagnachew> ok
<dagnachew> in your screenshots
<AqD> Neur0FX: faster?
<dagnachew> what is the first one ?
<dagnachew> emacs ?
<iphitus> can you link me to it? i havnt seen some of them for ages
<dagnachew> http://iphitus.loudas.com/designs/screenshots/040705.png
<AqD> vim
<Neur0FX> no i know fluxbox is faster.. but it also requires more tweaking and configurations.. which down the line i'm interested in doing.. but not at the moment
<iphitus> gvim
<AqD> bitstream vera sans mono
<iphitus> no wait, maybe it was regular vim
<iphitus> heck, it was one of them
<Neur0FX> i guess i should get xmd working properly.. so i can switch between WM
<Neur0FX> xdm*
<Neur0FX> uhmm.. nice fluxbox FAQ you got on your site iphitus
<iphitus> thanks
<dagnachew> gvim
<Neur0FX> care to make a XDM faq?
<Neur0FX> :D
<dagnachew> gvim is it gnome vi ?
<iphitus> gtk vim, not gnome dependent.
<dagnachew> what's the difference with gvim an vim
<dtw> g
<many> the gnome thing.
<dtw> gvim is gui of vim
<dtw> ...
<msg43> Does anyone use fbsplash / gensplash?
<dagnachew> failed downloading gvim-6.4-1.pkg.tar.gz from ftp.archlinux.org: 550 Failed to open file.
<iphitus> plenty of people, there's a great doco on the wiki msg43 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gensplash
<iphitus> covers everything
<msg43> iphitus, can you check my grub line
<iphitus> (good work dibble ;)
<iphitus> ok
<msg43> I can't figure out why it won't start on boot
<msg43> it will when I run /etc/rc.d/gensplash though
<msg43> kernel /bzImage-2.6.14-archck1 root=/dev/hdb1 devfs=nomount ro resume2=swap:/dev/hda2 vga=795 splash=verbose,theme:darch console=tty1
<msg43> initrd /fbsplash-darch-1024x768
<msg43> ahh I bet it a resoultion problem
<AqD> hi all!
<lowercase> hi AqD
<AqD> hi lowercase!
<dtw> hello?
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