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<libero> BobtheAvenger: it depends on the used operations
<BobtheAvenger> ok
<BobtheAvenger> thanks
<libero> BobtheAvenger: signed/unsigned vars have different sizes
<BobtheAvenger> yer
<libero> BobtheAvenger: cause you're missing one bit of the sign in the singed vars
<zoly> Ibkhair
<libero> zoly: qasdi mneen?
<BobtheAvenger> i undertand that, i was trying to understand the effect of typedefs on asm
<libero> BobtheAvenger: yeah. for example
<zoly> that arab word should have been the translation of "eel" btw
<libero> BobtheAvenger: if your compiler use shift left for multiply by two, it has to use the correct asm instruction that would keep the sign for signed vars
<BobtheAvenger> ok
<zoly> if eel is translatable. try to translate "sunburn" to an ennui
<libero> zoly: huh?
<libero> zoly: you're using an auto translator? :D
<zoly> i didn't happen to know the arab word for "eel" thus i had to look it up
<BobtheAvenger> libero: so the typedef only affects what the compiler does with the code?
<libero> BobtheAvenger: i blieve so. not 100% sure
<BobtheAvenger> ok
<BobtheAvenger> thats what i suspected, but i wasnt sure
<libero> zoly: well, Arabic is very complicated to use an auto translator for :)
<BobtheAvenger> auto translators have crossed my too many times
<BobtheAvenger> like isometric paper
<libero> hehe
<libero> well, the thing is we have cl***ic arabic; which i ***ume the translator is working on, but we don't speak it in our daily life
<libero> it's only for official docs
<libero> newspapers
<libero> televesion
<libero> that sort of thing
<BobtheAvenger> abit like "queens english"?
<libero> and we have another 10s of different accents
<libero> BobtheAvenger: yes mate
<BobtheAvenger> kwl
<libero> and those different accents aren't written
<libero> they have no rules
<libero> and new words come into them all the time
<BobtheAvenger> lol, i end up using 3 or 4 different dialects of english every day
<libero> you simply can't write them; cause they are rubbish :)
<BobtheAvenger> ok
<libero> BobtheAvenger: where do you live?
<BobtheAvenger> london
<libero> i c
<libero> i'm in Hemel Hempstead
<BobtheAvenger> kwl
<BobtheAvenger> i'm in north london
<libero> where about?
<BobtheAvenger> between the A406 n M25
<BobtheAvenger> i'm about 2 roads up from the A406
<libero> uhaa
<BobtheAvenger> north circular
<libero> yeah; quite close form hemel
<BobtheAvenger> its annoying cos most my mates are hackney/islington but i'm edmonoton
<libero> well, hackeny is a bit rough :)
<BobtheAvenger> basically, if u find the road that goes past liverpool street, thats my road
<libero> hehe; know that
<libero> used to live in westham
<BobtheAvenger> kool
<libero> so know all those areas
<BobtheAvenger> you know edmonton?
<libero> yeah
<BobtheAvenger> kool
<BobtheAvenger> i'm there
<libero> not quite well though
<libero> i have friends in Northolt
<BobtheAvenger> thats abit further round i think
<libero> yeah, to the west
<BobtheAvenger> yer
<BobtheAvenger> i wanna move out tho
<libero> me too
<libero> going to Aylesbury
<BobtheAvenger> but i wont beable to survive without adults to buy beer for me
<Robert> Heh.
<libero> uhaaaaaaaaaaa
<libero> :D
<libero> tell me about it
<BobtheAvenger> and i'm completely skint and have no job
<BobtheAvenger> i cant even afford a cardboard box in hackney/dalston
<libero> studying?
<BobtheAvenger> altho edmonton has cheeper houseing and more council stuff
<BobtheAvenger> i got GCSEs in 6months
<libero> looking for a uni?
<BobtheAvenger> looking to not get thrown out before AS levels
<libero> i didn't study highschool here
<libero> so don't know a lot about how it goes :)
<BobtheAvenger> ok
<BobtheAvenger> well they want me 2 get 6As and the deputy head has it in for me
<libero> kewl, hope you get them
<BobtheAvenger> thanks
<BobtheAvenger> i'm least likely to even p*** english
<libero> :)
<libero> ain't english your first language?
<BobtheAvenger> yer
<BobtheAvenger> but i'm dylexic and when i was tought to read it was at its worst
<BobtheAvenger> so i'm significalty behind everyone else in english
<libero> uha
<libero> what subjects do they study here in english?
<BobtheAvenger> i was forced into eglish literature and language
<BobtheAvenger> *english
<libero> should be fine
<libero> it's much worse in arabic, i have to say
<BobtheAvenger> i did a mock eglish, i've never seen so many zeros
<libero> we have to study ancient and modern literature + poetry
<BobtheAvenger> like latin?
<libero> well, sort of non-used vocab
<BobtheAvenger> ok
<libero> the problem isn't in the vocab only
<BobtheAvenger> i'm doing latin GCSE
<libero> cause in arabic, we use metaphors all the time
<libero> so one sentence can have 10 different meanings
<libero> so you've got to study the history of that time so you can imagine what they're tallking about
<BobtheAvenger> cool
<BobtheAvenger> you get that in latin literature too
<BobtheAvenger> you doing/did compsci at uni?
<libero> and cl***ic arabic poetry is gorgeous
<libero> yeah, "did"
<BobtheAvenger> cool
<BobtheAvenger> i'd like to do like a compsci Alevel if theres one about
<libero> yeah, should be easy for you :)
<BobtheAvenger> why?
<libero> i can't imagine it being that difficult
<BobtheAvenger> true
<libero> i've seen some ppl taking "IT" in GCSE and that was trivial
<BobtheAvenger> dont get me started on that
<libero> hehe
<BobtheAvenger> its the biggest waste of time for anyone who wants to do any computing stuff
<libero> you get that subject for grades :D
<libero> hehe
<BobtheAvenger> i dont do it
<BobtheAvenger> my mate does tho
<BobtheAvenger> its basically an M$ certification course
<libero> i think you have two subjects, is that right?
<libero> yeah, but very easy though
<SorcererX> eww
<SorcererX> I'm glad my University doesn't do *ANY* m$-specific stuff
<BobtheAvenger> he's trying to get himself thrown off the course i think
<BobtheAvenger> most unis use JAVA when they do programming in compsci courses now?
<SorcererX> seems so.
<libero> my uni used pascal :)
<libero> now they use C in my uni
<SorcererX> atleast for Object Oriented programming courses.
<BobtheAvenger> C and asm are my favourite languages adm
<libero> yeah, we studied C++ and Java for OOP
<libero> and ASM for computer arch.
<BobtheAvenger> why do newer OO languages not have multiple inheritance?
<libero> i think now they give C# courses too
<libero> well, Java for newbies isn't easy, i have to say
<BobtheAvenger> i had someone trying to convince me that "C# kicks ***"
<libero> apart from being easy or not, it wouldn't help a lot to understand computers
<BobtheAvenger> its good for demonstarting like ideas
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