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<niktoi> Hi! Im sorry for the bad pub but is it possible to run gnome frontends from Kde when Gdm is installed?
<oGALAXYo> eh ?
<oGALAXYo> you can run gnome applications inside KDE yes
<oGALAXYo> and the other way around it works too
<niktoi> hmm its strange, when I try to run gnome-commander(corectly installed trough atpt-get) or nautilus, nothing appears
<oGALAXYo> why do you want to run gnome-commander or nautilus ?
<oGALAXYo> they are both broken apps compared to konqueror.
<niktoi> WoA ! three days later, it started!
<grepper> niktoi: try running them from the terminal
<niktoi> yea thats what im doin
<grepper> just make sure you run nautilas with the no desktop option
<grepper> (if you still need to do that)
<grepper> haven't used it in a while
<oGALAXYo> you still need to
<niktoi> hmmm the no desktop option
<niktoi> i try that
<oGALAXYo> niktoi: if you allow... i dont recommend using nautilus. i used to be a gnome developer and know how broken the gnome-vfs module is (copying files and so on from ftp etc..)..
<oGALAXYo> its still in bad shape..
<niktoi> yes i would prefer konqueror
<niktoi> but it makes my system crashes..
<oGALAXYo> what kde version ?
<oGALAXYo> and what distro
<niktoi> 3.3.2 on promepis (debian testing/stable kernel 2.6.7)
<oGALAXYo> i see. the latest kde is 3.5 beta 2..
<oGALAXYo> even kde 3.4 is newer than what you run.
<niktoi> I see
<oGALAXYo> you should give kde 3.4 or 3.5 beta2 a try.. not just that its more stable. its also double as fast..
<oGALAXYo> well.. at least faster and more stable due to better compiler and many bugfixes.
<meme_> really?
<niktoi> ok, let me upgrade that and I come back : )
<niktoi> Ty for u advice!
<niktoi> brb
<oGALAXYo> meme_: most crashes are usually related to bad gcc C++ support
<oGALAXYo> most C++ related issues have been solved with gcc 3.4 and better 4.0
<oGALAXYo> speed, stability, better code generation.
<oGALAXYo> but it also depends that you dont use 'leet' optimize flags during compile time..
<oGALAXYo> best is to compile KDE AS IS without any special flags using a NEW compiler.
<oGALAXYo> gcc 4.0.2 gives good results..
<meme_> debian using g++ 4.0? (btw, I feel g++ 4.0 is Great)
<meme_> 'cause compiling takes Time
<oGALAXYo> well if you use precompiled headers then you can drastically improve compiling time.
<oGALAXYo> i once measured the compile time for my entire KDE..
<oGALAXYo> if you want i can give you the results..
<oGALAXYo> for each KDE package
<meme_> I just want amarok working :(
<Arafangion> meme_: Debian unstable is definetely using 4.0, afaik.
<meme_> ok.
<meme_> using testing now..
<meme_> but.
<meme_> Where does amarok hold it's files?
<meme_> even deleted ~/.kde/apps/amarok
<meme_> but didn't help
<meme_> I've used it earlier, and then uninstalled...
<markey> what's up meme_?
<markey> rok trouble?
<markey> I just tuned in
<meme_> yes
<meme_> the collection thingy doesn't work
<markey> ok that's easy
<meme_> I can choose directories, but it doesn't add them
<markey> you're using debian right
<markey> yep
<meme_> debian
<Tm_T> :p
<markey> you see
<markey> your sqlite version is incompatible with the rok
<meme_> ?!?
<markey> yes
<Tm_T> yu
<markey> debian uses an external sqlite
<markey> for foolish reasons
<meme_> what is sqlite
<markey> if you upgrade to the latest rok package, all is fine
<meme_> that is?
<markey> otherwise, you'll have to downgrade sqlite
<markey> latest released rok is 1.3.3
<meme_> I've 1.2.4
<oGALAXYo> meme_: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GSjuJM82.html here you see my results for KDE building times using gcc 4.0.1.
<markey> yes that's very old
<meme_> oGALAXYo: what's delta t
<oGALAXYo> meme_: i saved nearly 3 hrs from compiling entire kde.. and if i had used precompiled headers i would have even saved a lot more.
<oGALAXYo> meme_: the time difference.
<oGALAXYo> meme_: time 2 - time 1 = the delta of both times.
<meme_> ex
<meme_> ok
<straw> oGALAXYo: how does one use pre-compiled headers?
<oGALAXYo> straw: you enable it during qt-copy or kde modules
<oGALAXYo> through the configure scripts.
<straw> oGALAXYo: does it actually work?
<oGALAXYo> yes
<CydeWeys> Hello everyone, I have a pretty simple queston. I'm viewing a folder full of pictures using Konqueror but the thumbnails are too small to be of much use. How do I configure Konqueror to make the thumbnails larger? Thanks!
<straw> CydeWeys: find the Photobook icon on the tool bar
<CydeWeys> straw: I've also used Photobook and its thumbnails are also too small. Can those be made larger?
<straw> CydeWeys: you can also get a tool tip preview if you enable it
<niktoi> hmmmm Im unable to upgrade kde..
<PhilOut> CydeWeys: view -> icon size -> biggest you can find
<PhilOut> niktoi: probably a question for #yourdistro
<niktoi> true
<CydeWeys> Hahaha thanks PhilOut, that did it.
<CydeWeys> It was right there in the menus staring me in the face and I didn't see it.
<niktoi> last version is 3.%?!
<oGALAXYo> 3.5 beta 2
<niktoi> ok : ) ty
<oGALAXYo> or 3.4.3 or so for the last stable one..
<oGALAXYo> but 3.5 beta 2 is damn stable for a soon to be release version of kde.
<bornio> indeed
<oGALAXYo> hmmm
<oGALAXYo> cynthia rothrock movie on tv..
<oGALAXYo> together with 'chung lee'
<oGALAXYo> or hows he called..
<oGALAXYo> :)
<oGALAXYo> http://www.cynthiarothrock.org/
<oGALAXYo> hmm doesnt look that shabby :)
<oGALAXYo> Bolo Yeung is his real name :)
<oGALAXYo> chung lee
<ianteper> hi
<jcurry> how do i make kmail attach gpg signatures instead of inlining them?
<Ash-Fox> jcurry, just so you know someone is here reading the questions... I am, unfortunately don't know the answer to your question.
<jcurry> :(
<vblanton> I love kde
<Kalock> Hello everyone... just have a quick question
<Sho_> Kalock: shoot
<Kalock> ack.. wrong channel... sorry
<Kalock> Well maybe not
<Kalock> k3b
<Sho_> well, there should be some k3b users here :)
<Kalock> What is the diff. between a Video DVD project and a emovix dvd project?
<StevenR> emovix?
<Kalock> That is a choice on my k3b
<Sho_> Kalock: "emovix" is a system that makes bootable Linux CDs that directly boot into mplayer and play back the video
<Kalock> I am trying to burn a dvd to watch on my normal dvd player
<Sho_> Kalock: http://movix.sourceforge.net/
<Sho_> Kalock: Then go for the Video DVD project :)
<Kalock> k
<Kalock> What writing mode do I want?
<dimm0k> trying to add a printer in kde but it's asking me for a username and p***word when i attempt to make a test print... any clues?
<Kalock> I have a choide of DAO, Overwrite and incramental
<StevenR> dimm0k: use your root username and p***word
<Gumby> has anyone seen this issue before. IWhen trying to set konqueror or kde kicker settings I get a blank page when opening up the settings. Anyone have any idea what I might try to resolve this? I thought it was make a .kde problem so I created a new user and tested it but it was the same with a fresh .kde.
<Kwarq> Gumby, I found 4 matches to your query: asusanator, _, KDE, __. asusanator (n=KDE@wayax5-157.dialup.optusnet.com.au) was last seen quitting #kde 2 hours 2 minutes ago (23.10. 17:13) stating ""Leaving"" after spending 53 minutes there.
<Kalock> Keep in mind.. I am not copying direct from a DVD but from teh audio_ts and video_ts that is on my HD
<Sho_> o.O
<StevenR> Kalock: i would say DAO
<Kalock> k
<Kalock> Thanks....
<StevenR> Kalock: if it's a fresh blank dvdr
<Kalock> It is... DVD+R DL
<dimm0k> StevenR, is it attempting to write to cupsd.conf?
<StevenR> dimm0k: no, it's making a new print queue for test purposes, which needs root access
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