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<annma> No_name: so what do you want me to change? <No_name> annma: nothing!!! <annma> ah, ok then <annma> I thought you wanted me to commit a fix <No_name> u do what ur want, if u dont want kdenetwork working, its up to u <jaqob> problems again... I tries to autostart thunderbird on desktop 6. I use a bashscript with "kstart --desktop 6 thunderbird" in the autostartfolder. If i execute the script manually, thunderbird starts correctly, at desktop 6, but when i start kde, it ends up on desktop 1... <annma> well I thought you complained here for a reason <jorgp_laptop> annma: how is kde4 coming? <annma> it's in no shape at the moemnt <annma> I mean, there's nothing new <No_name> annma: does dir /kopete/ui exists? no it doesnt, so whats the problem to fix it? <No_name> now i have more things to do, nite <jorgp_laptop> I would image qt4 conversion will take a while yet <annma> bye <No_name> annma: im noe kde developer to commit fixes, but ur one and dont want to fix kdenetwork, awesome <annma> I ask you the fix <No_name> its in ur front <annma> whatever, you are never happy <annma> yes yes <No_name> just open makdefile and fix it <annma> it is indeed <annma> yes yes yes <annma> God! help me! <No_name> good nite all <PhilOut> I come for the user support, I stay for the comedy idiot entertainment :-) <annma> well in fact he is right <annma> there is a build problem <annma> I just came upon it as I am building from scratch today <strike4ce> Anyone know about installing ati drivers? <Sho_> strike4ce: rivanews has a comprehensive how-to on their websites <strike4ce> is that ati and does that work with kubuntu kde? <PhilOut> strike4ce: graphics card stuff is handled by X, not KDE, so if X supports it, KDE will <PhilOut> best to ask in #xorg or #yourdistro <strike4ce> Sho_: what is the riva website address? <Sho_> strike4ce: Uh, actually I mis-remembered ... it was Rage3D: http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/ <sobersabre> guys is qt4 already stable ? is there any kde build on top of it ? <strike4ce> Sho_: thanx ill try that <Sho_> sobersabre: Yes, Qt4 is stable. No, KDE is not there yet. <willwork4foo> evenin <schloob> anyone know if it's possible to get widgets (buttons, scrollbars, text boxes) to always use the default KDE style and not styles specified in CSS <schloob> in konqueor* <schloob> konqueror* <fanti> i've some trouble with my ati driver regarding too big fonts! i got an hint to fix it " You can probably fix it by editing /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers and adding the -dpi 100 or -dpi 75 option as appropriate" but i've no Xservers file there? <fanti> see: http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-archive/msg00863.html <humbolt> is it normal that kmail performs extreamly bad with mdir mailboxes with several 1000 mails, the kind you have when you are subscribed to a mailing list? <oGALAXYo> uhm <oGALAXYo> how many 1000 mails ? <slicslak> humbolt, kmail can access mdir directly? or are you talking about imap? <slicslak> i have 14000 in a folder in tb, it seems to do ok. <humbolt> 7500 mails in in kmail stored in a maildir folder on a brand new laptop <slicslak> anyone familar with how to use cddb.org w/ kaudiocreator? freedb.org appears to be down. :-( <humbolt> it acts completely wired <oGALAXYo> humbolt: please install hdparm <humbolt> I have it installed and I have a sata disk anyway <oGALAXYo> what kde version ? <humbolt> DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 <humbolt> 3.4.3 <oGALAXYo> hmm strange.. <humbolt> when I access the folder, it takes about 3 seconds to show the first mail <humbolt> and the same, when I change to another mail <humbolt> actually it seems to take quite some time in folders with just a few messages to <oGALAXYo> no, thats not right. <slicslak> how fast is your new laptop? how much ram? <oGALAXYo> humbolt: i think i know one problem <humbolt> the worst thing happens if I try to search over those emails <oGALAXYo> humbolt: please open a terminal and enter 'top' <oGALAXYo> maybe something is eating CPU <humbolt> yes, kontakt is eating cpu <oGALAXYo> how much <humbolt> if I change into the 7500 mails folder ... all <oGALAXYo> try killing its process and run kmail directly.. <oGALAXYo> and wtch top <humbolt> and switching to the app of course takes endless <humbolt> ok, I try kmail directly <oGALAXYo> and watch top <humbolt> smae thing <oGALAXYo> can you do some performace measures with your hd ? <humbolt> same thing starting kmail directly <humbolt> how <humbolt> it boots up pretty fast <oGALAXYo> hdparm -t /dev/device <oGALAXYo> both <fanti> any ideas about that font problem? http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-archive/msg00859.html <humbolt> Timing buffered disk reads: 108 MB in 3.04 seconds = 35.56 MB/sec <canllaith> Mine only manages 20 and kmail performs well. <humbolt> Timing cached reads: 2632 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1314.89 MB/sec <humbolt> Might ext3 be the problem <humbolt> or ****ing atime?? <oGALAXYo> dunno <oGALAXYo> for me my emails show up instantly. <fanti> hmm <oGALAXYo> <--- XFS <canllaith> but.. how much better? Would I notice the difference on ext3? No clue. <oGALAXYo> i dont trust reiser. <oGALAXYo> i had too often lost data.. <humbolt> hmm, it changed now <oGALAXYo> corrupt files that sneaked on my system without me noticing. <humbolt> do not know why <oGALAXYo> humbolt: can you test this <canllaith> Works for me for the last 2 years so *shrug* <humbolt> test what? <oGALAXYo> humbolt: hdparm /dev/device <oGALAXYo> and give us the results <oGALAXYo> post it to http://rafb.net/paste <humbolt> 16 bit readonly off, readahead 356 <humbolt> 256 <oGALAXYo> see and there is the problem <oGALAXYo> IO_Support should be 32bit <oGALAXYo> and using_dma should be 1 <oGALAXYo> IO_Support = 1 (32-bit) <oGALAXYo> using_dma = 1 (on) <oGALAXYo> these are important <oGALAXYo> otherwise your system crawls <roadfish`> I noticed that KDE has power control features in the Control Center. Sometimes my desktop PC does an auto-power-off. Is there something in KDE that could be causing this poweroff? <humbolt> I have ubuntu, they do that by default. DMA seems to be enabled and however, suddenly it works quite well. I do not know why. <humbolt> But I will try 32 bit <humbolt> http://rafb.net/paste/results/1ZT8Gx40.html <oGALAXYo> hdparm -qc 1 /dev/device <oGALAXYo> try this <humbolt> http://rafb.net/paste/results/OAQ7eh33.html <oGALAXYo> hdparm -qd 1 /dev/device <oGALAXYo> that too <humbolt> HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument <oGALAXYo> ok <humbolt> hdparm -c1 /dev/sda <humbolt> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device <oGALAXYo> humbolt: i have the impression that you need to check up your kernel config <humbolt> I guess sata is udma by default <oGALAXYo> for DMA and 32bit <oGALAXYo> and that it supports the correct controler.. <humbolt> ubuntu standard kernel <oGALAXYo> maybe its some generic drive configuration. <oGALAXYo> but i can promise you that you are missing 32bit <oGALAXYo> and that probably DMA support is not enabled.. <humbolt> see, it is working now. suddenly. and I did not change anything <oGALAXYo> due to generic driver code.. <oGALAXYo> humbolt: i see.. but ok, just in case it happens again and you notice other strange things.. you know what to check. <humbolt> now it is slow again <humbolt> maybe laptop mode is enabled and the hdd was spinned down?! <oGALAXYo> dunno <oGALAXYo> i best guess is still the drive config in your kernel ... <humbolt> I doubt it has any thing to do with neither dma nor 32 bit <oGALAXYo> its some generic stuff. <oGALAXYo> but i believe it is. <humbolt> 32 bit does not make a big difference and dma is enabled <oGALAXYo> it does <humbolt> IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03)
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