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<cossidhon> Apps I use mostly: konq, kontact, amarok
<annma> cossidhon: hmm, ask in #gentoo and look at their forums them
<annma> then
<annma> it's not a normal KDE behaviour
<cossidhon> annma: ok thanx, i'll try that
<Worf> anybody familiar with kiosk? i've been looking for something like a list of what i can turn off, but didn't really find much. I especially would like to disable the ability of saving a session ( forcing the user to start with a defined session everytime ) any ideas?
<SirTalon> uh
<SirTalon> use the kiosk admin tool
<SirTalon> or it may be called 'kiosktool'
<schloob> anyone know how to get the screensaver to play in the background when you lock the screen?
<Worf> SirTalon: thanks, but that i know and it doesn't offer this. and the last release is quite old
<Worf> schloob: well - afaik the selected screensaver is always played when locking the screen
<schloob> Worf: it's not working for me :(
<Worf> hmm... oh - maybe it is disabled for screensavers that let you see the desktop ( those lense effect safers for example )
<schloob> Worf: hrm, maybe it just doesn't work with the screensaver i'm using, i'll try another
<Worf> schloob: i just tried 3, and it worked with all...
<schloob> Worf: yeah, i just tried a different one and it worked. thanks :]
<|thac|> i have aproblem with kde-3.5beta2. when i start noatun arts gets a sig11 and crashes.
<Bearcat> does anyone know if there is a general linux audo channel? I have some questions about audio formats and quality.
<thiago> |thac|: g++ 4.0.2?
<CHodapp> Bearcat, this is the closest you'll find.
<Bearcat> CHodapp: cool
<CHodapp> Wait.
<CHodapp> #lad
<CHodapp> Sorry.
<CHodapp> I thought you were already in #lad...
<Bearcat> ahh cool
<mabu> Bearcat: The best Linux open format is OGG
<SirTalon> flac
<|thac|> thiago:g++ 4.0.1
<SirTalon> for lossless
<CHodapp> VORBIS, dammit.
<SirTalon> ogg for lossy
<SirTalon> haha
<CHodapp> Ogg is just the container layer.
<SirTalon> yeah
<mabu> Speex for speech
<SirTalon> yep
<SirTalon> speex is pretty damn good
<CHodapp> I don't see you in #lad, Bearcat....
<Bearcat> CHodapp: one moment, i'm actually at work.
<thiago> |thac|: hold on
<|thac|> ok
<thiago> |thac|: if you kill arts and restart it with GLIBCXX_FORCE_NEW=1, does it help?
<thiago> see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111115
<|thac|> ill test
<thiago> i.e., GLIBCXX_FORCE_NEW=1 artsd
<|thac|> thiago: yes that did it no more crash
<thiago> |thac|: good
<thiago> it's a g++ bug and it's been filed with the gcc developers
<|thac|> so what is the workaround disable visibility?
<nich> is there any place I can get kde's log from last login attempt?
<thiago> or set GLIBCXX_FORCE_NEW=1
<thiago> nich: KDE doesn't log that. If something does, it's PAM in your system.
<|thac|> ok where do i set GLIBCXX_FORCE_NEW=1
<thiago> somewhere before KDE loads
<thiago> one option is startkde
<nich> thiago: where would you start looking for if you had a kde that locks before fuly displaying the splashscreen?
<thiago> nich: does kdm say "invalid p***word" or something?
<nich> nope
<thiago> ok, so you did log in
<thiago> see the ~/.xsession-errors file
<nich> do'h!
<nich> sure... I'll check it
<nich> hum...
<nich> something cleaned the .xsession-errors file
<nich> and I can't try a login and read it, since the lock I just described somehow makes my box ignore Ctrl+Alt+ commands
<nich> I just recently moved from devfsd to udev (kde used to work fine before that)... would it have anything to do with kde not being able to complete the login part?
<ep> 3.4.3 How do i get a trash icon on the desktop?
<SirTalon> nich: could you login using failsafe or something like that?
<nich> SirTalon: yes, I could
<|thac|> thiago: thanx for the help
<SirTalon> nich: can you then run 'startkde' ?
<nich> haven't tried doing so manually...
<ep> join #kubuntu
<ep> if u want :)
<nich> I'll try now... if I don't come back, it's because it locked my keyboard again :P
<Bearcat> later folks, I'm going home
<SirTalon> kde shouldn't be able to lock the keyboard... :-/
<nich> yeah
<Bearcat> see ya in sourcemage Worf
<nich> I'm aware of that... but haven't been able to isolate the source of the problem yet
<nich> brb
<nich> (I hope)
<nich_> back
<nich_> nope... startkde gives me the locked, half-drawn splash screen too
<nich_> I'm getting just annoyed enough to think about reinstalling it
<ziom> nich_, i have something like the same error
<ziom> dos the splashscreen is blue?
<nich_> well.. yes, but I fail to see the relation between the splash screen color and the error
<ep> I've got a trash icon on the panel but my panels getting crowded and I want to put it on the desktop instead. This seems really hard for some reason. I asked in #kubuntu and they suggested I make the icon smaller but I like large icons. How do i put the trash icon on the desktop?
<nich_> (specially because it used to run ok, before this morning's update)
<ziom> nich_, this is xorg flault
<nich_> hum?
<ziom> or xfree86 whatever u use
<nich_> what part of xorg, exactly, is it to blame?
<ziom> i m not sure
<nich_> then how can you say it's xorg's fault?
<ziom> i took the xorg build in cvs
<ziom> and from there the problems start
<nich_> manually running anything in xorg works
<nich_> and I haven't touched xorg in quite a while...
<nich_> so I doubt it's xorg's fault
<ziom> i installed nothing else that serious that it would burn out kde
<ziom> nich_, does conqueror work?
<ziom> nich, or kcontrol in other sessions?
<nich_> just a sec
<ziom> gnome, fluxbox, fvwm?
<nich_> don't have any of those installed...
<nich_> but on failsafe, konqueror runs just fine
<nich_> without borders and all, but runs
<SirTalon> nich_: did startkde not work?
<SirTalon> oh it doesn't
<nich_> SirTalon: same problem...
<ziom> nich_ u have kde so u must have kcontrol...
<nich_> last line I could read said k<something>sycoca running...
<roboto> hello, i have installed mdk 2006, and have all kind of issues with kde. the update config for one, just gets stuck in a continual loop.... any help
<SirTalon> do you get any output in the xterm before everything goes to hell in a hand basket?
<nich_> ziom: sorry, but what's your point with all that?
<SirTalon> kbuildsycocoa...
<nich_> yes... sorry, I forgot to write that name down.. ^^;
<SirTalon> roboto: if its an issue related to an update you may get better help in a mandriva channel because it may be unrelated to kde
<ziom> nich_, becaue kde is not the olny thing on my box but also kcontrol
<ziom> nich_, u have kde installed so just run kcontrol and look if it works
<nich_> SirTalon: any ideas?
<ziom> (it uses components requried by kde)
<SirTalon> nice_: try making a new user and logging in
<nich_> ziom: kcontrol works, right?
<nich_> satisfied?
<roboto> yea, i agree, i just cant get anyone in mandriva to help..... with 2005le all worked great.... upgrade to 2006 64 bit, and all he11 is shot it seems
<SirTalon> nich_* sorry misspelled yourname
<nich_> lol
<nich_> that's ok... I'll try...
<SirTalon> roboto: if you make a new user and login with that do you have all the same problems?
<ziom> nich_, ok so u have other error than mine
<ziom> ;)
<nich_> ziom: REALLLY?
<ziom> nich_ YES!!!!!
<ziom> just imagine:O
<|thac|> roboto: upgrading is never a good one better to install clean
<nich_> funny how it took you 15 minutes to get what I got after your first comment
<roboto> havent tried yet... one problem is arts..... cant start due to cpu overload on my 3500 amd 64??
<ziom> u are also funny
<SirTalon> roboto: try making a new user and using that, if it goes fine its probably related to your personal config files
<|thac|> roboto: i have only tried the 32 bit version of 2006
<thiago> |thac|: hopefully, with the Conectiva team, upgrading will be painless
<thiago> I've been upgrading my workstation from Conectiva to Conectiva for the past 5 years
<roboto> well i removed my user directory befor i upgraded the system so all the config files are fresh from that
<nich> ah well
<nich> creating a new user and loging in solved nothing
<nich> :/
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