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<jimm> how can I find out if there are/were mem leaks in 2.4.27? <szk> I will try ssh'ing in a little bit <szk> It does not work on other distributions either.. Works fine in windows. <szk> czr: the system just totally hard locks. Cant ctrl alt backspace or anything <szk> maybe when I compile my own kernel i enable smp, for my hyperthreading.. that might have something to do with it <MrParanoia> strange things happen with building kernels, selecting * for Wireless LAN makes the ipw2200 option go away - why? <jimm> read the config file and see <MrParanoia> what is causing this in 2.4.14? - WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.14/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt_tkip.ko needsunknown symbol wireless_send_event <MrParanoia> err 2.6.14 <jimm> is 2.6.14 released? <MrParanoia> yep <jimm> what program is generating that error message? <jimm> s/error// <MrParanoia> not sure since i && many together <jimm> meetoo <MrParanoia> my guess is make modules_install <jimm> make would not at all produce that message. <jimm> find out what program does. <MrParanoia> make modules gave me this so the other one came from make modules_install : *** Warning: "wireless_send_event" [net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt_tkip.ko] undefined <jimm> hint: what does make actually do? <MrParanoia> compiles <jimm> it does?? <jimm> are you sure? <MrParanoia> ok, so it builds the modules <jimm> how? <jimm> what make does is this: <MrParanoia> it compiles c code into object code? <MrParanoia> C/C++ <jimm> - determines from the make file a relation between files, such that one given file is "source" to another file's "result" <jimm> - compares a result file to a source file to determine from both file's time stamp whether the result is up to date, or out of date <MrParanoia> yeah, and the modules end with the .o extension which is object code that the compiler spits out <jimm> - if it is up to date, make does NOTHING <MrParanoia> yep <MrParanoia> i noticed that <jimm> - if it is out of date, make calls ANOTHER PROGRAM which builds the result from the source. <deadcat> my 2.6.14 kernel waits at the ext3 step. i dont know why. i am using same fs settings from .12 and .14 <jimm> make has NOTHING that actually does ANY building. <jimm> it p***es the job to OTHER programs. <jimm> therefore: <MrParanoia> ok. i didn't know that - i ***umed that it called the compiler <jimm> your error/warning messages are being produced from programs that make calls, NOT from make itself <MrParanoia> at any rate - the build failed because i got an error - maybe from mkinitrd which follwed make modules_install? <jimm> YES, that's exactly what it does: it CALLS the compiler. but it is NOT the compiler. <jimm> so... you have to determine which program (that make invokes) produces the error message you get <jimm> (note: exploration in this area will also familiarize you with the set of compiler tools, inasmuch as you're essentially compiling a C program) <MrParanoia> jimm> there's a lot of things i need to do - i wish i had the time to go more indepth <jimm> well, until you do, you might not find a substantial number of your own problems <jimm> anyways, once you find the exact program that produces the message you're getting, you can check the DIAGNOSTICS section of the man page to find the meaning of the message <MrParanoia> unfortuneatly i have other things that need attention - so the fewer the problems, the more i'll enjoy linux <jimm> note that you are free to run any OS you want :) <jimm> unfortunately, time is short... a phenominon we all understand... fortunately, there are paid consultants :) <MrParanoia> i know that this is freeware but when just about everything has a problem i don't have time to do anything useful with the stuff - as for paid tech support, i have paid tech support for my new laptop and i STILL can't get answers <jimm> did your laptop come with linux installed on it? <jimm> in your case, you can get more information if you are moreorless familiar with the parts of the compiler and can deternine which program generated a message... <jimm> are you sure you typed the entire message? sometimes the program is identified at the start of the warning/error message line <jimm> at this point we can't even tell whether the message is related to compiling or linking <MrParanoia> this is what i got after running make modules_install: http://pastebin.com/411579 <jimm> hmm, it looks like depmod is producing the message <jimm> but that's a warning message, which should not cause make to terminate early... can you find an -error- message? or is that the only output? <MrParanoia> that's all <jimm> how did you get the kernel source itself? <jimm> (note, I don't understand why building a kernel should involve depmod in any way... depmod should really be run at each boot to create the module dependency file) <izo> hi how can i remove hacked kernel module from kernel ? <izo> it doesnt show via lsmod <izo> bu ti found it via module_hunter <jimm> there is rmmod <izo> i know but the module name is funny <jimm> but if you've been compromised... you might want to format hd and restore from recent backup <izo> WVS|$1v_v,h-Q`h4 <jimm> quote it <izo> did that <izo> didtn help <jimm> why? <izo> i belive rmmod was compromised as well <jimm> but if you've been compromised... you might want to format hd and restore from recent backup <izo> well i'd prefer to get rid of that stuff rist <jimm> so get rid of it... but you're talking about forensics, which is tedious and therefore expensive <jimm> if rmmod was compromised, how do you know what else was? <jimm> or was not? <c14n> i'm stuck on an issue with a driver here, as of unregister_ioctl32_conversion/register were removed as of 2.6.13 <c14n> now 2.6.14 <c14n> I want to register cmd, handler <c14n> and unreg cmd <izo> jimm i dont but i'ld like to investigate :-) <jimm> there's nothing wrong with that <c14n> (for 64bit) <jimm> if you have that kind of time, go for it :) <jimm> but if the machine involved was serving a purpose, you might want to replace it and get it going... then you can explore the machine in question all you want without worrying about outage <izo> well good thing we had backup server <jimm> hmm, yes... now I see why you want to investigate.. because if it happened to your server, it could just as easily happen to the backup, and in the same way <izo> well not eaxtly the hacked one was old redhat the backup is new debian <izo> anyway thnx <jimm> is the backup working well now? including necessary data? <izo> yeah <jimm> back it up. soon. or better... now. <jimm> make sure you can restore onto some machine from a backup <c14n> you guys know what handler is for 64bit? <jimm> you mean for C kernel api? <c14n> yes <jimm> no... <c14n> damn <c14n> Time to do <c14n> dig* <jimm> but can you get an api listing? <c14n> i'm going to look through this arch/x86_64/ia32/ia32_ioctl.c <c14n> i'm trying to fix some drivers <jimm> ia32? will that help you with 64bit? <c14n> Because of the late, What: register_ioctl32_conversion() / unregister_ioctl32_conversion() <c14n> Why: Replaced by ->compat_ioctl in file_operations and other method <c14n> vecors. <jimm> it looks like you'll have to look at how to use those <c14n> Those are removed, i need to find a new way to implement the 'register' and unregister functions. <jimm> what version of debian do you have? what kernel? <jimm> err, izo: <c14n> I should try and find another function in the deprecated kernel that used this before <c14n> and see what it has changed to to support a proper register and unregister <jimm> excellent idea... <c14n> I figure if I want to do it properly I should follow an examplke <c14n> example* <jimm> that should lead almost directly to a solution <c14n> Indeed. <c14n> Fixing ATI drivers for 64bit as well. <c14n> ah ha! <jimm> omg, fixed it already?! <c14n> found a function <c14n> which does exactly what i was looking for <jimm> nice :) <c14n> hmm still the same in this one, but i wonder <c14n> wonder if 2.6.12 has more of that function within it <c14n> nope <c14n> ah ha <c14n> 2.6.11 has a ton of those conversions in it <c14n> :) <c14n> rock on <c14n> figured it out <jimm> nice :) <magyar> does 2.6.14 containes pptp VPN p***through for netfiler? <b-_-d> where is the info on why or why not a patch gets into the kernel <c14n> b-_-d: They get in if they're required most of the time <c14n> and or signed off by osdl members <b-_-d> i saw on google reiser4 will not be in 2.6.15 <b-_-d> i want to know why <c14n> He probably does not update fast enough. <b-_-d> two week window is too small <c14n> If it's not ready for a patch release sure <b-_-d> ok <b-_-d> i will just google for answers <Jason-Bourne> reiser4 will be coming in 2.8.10.2.w00t.lol.^_^ <rebel> are there any kernel-land functions for opening a file? <MrParanoia> got one problem solved in 2.6.14
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