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<kire> lichtblau, jabber.org stops responding after i get the stream:features just like in your example. i suspect cl-xmpp isn't doing something it should be doing. let me work on it over the weekend and on Monday i suspect we'll have a largely complete library. thanks for your help.
<kire> though presence is working: Received: #<PRESENCE from:erikenge3@jabber.org/Gaim show:away {989A7B1}>
<salex> arg. i'm cursed. 3 printers, 1 has no access, one is down for maintenance, and the other chokes on my job!
<drewc> Xach : i gotto show off too. web 2.0! chech merlin.tech.coop/sunrise , log in with anything, click 'edit content'. then edit the menu bar, and drag and drop the list items. so cool.
<salex> Xach: if you figure out a way to make the speach bubble face the right way, i'll be impressed :)
<azu> salex, I sometimes choke even on my own job, so don't be too hard on that printer
<salex> heh.
<salex> problem seems to be that the .pdf expands to about 120 Mb when it hits postscript. ooops.
<drewc> azu: my girlfriend chokes on my job sometimes .. ;)
<dAS-> drewc; is that a ucw app?
<Xach> salex: sort of a magnetic speech spike?
<drewc> dAS-: that it is. (well, Lisp-on-Lines really)
<dAS-> drewc; and lisp-on-lines is built on top of ucw?
<Xach> drewc: eek, sorry...i got a backtrace?
<salex> Xach: pain in the ***, is what. guess i'm reading on screen this weekend, as it's too late to get at any of the big printers. sigh
<dAS-> dAS-; btw. cool. Didn't work on Safari for me.. but firefox worked
<Xach> drewc: ah, there we go...pretty neat!
<Xach> salex: i think we had a wire cross
<stesch> drewc: Will the URIs stay this way?
<salex> Xach: i think you are right
<drewc> dAs-: yes
<drewc> Xach: dang .. backtrace ... how did you do it?
<salex> oh well, off to proofread. have fun all.
<drewc> stesch: stay like how?
<Xach> drewc: clicked "edit"
<stesch> drewc: http://merlin.tech.coop/sunrise?s=RERctSifyofPoNOrKlbaaEAvWKqOzgZoGfumDnJq&f=bUdcOkyTOCqsSKbuEAqa&a=DhbqtKPNvO instead of http://merlin.tech.coop/sunrise/FAQ
<stesch> http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/uri-choose
<stesch> http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/readable-uri http://www.w3.org/QA/2004/08/readable-uri
<drewc> stesch: that would still have to be merlin.tech.coop/sunrise/faq?s=foo&f=bar ... how else does one keep state?
<drewc> Stesch: i am to ***ume you know nothing of CPS frameworks :)
<drewc> Xach: that's not so good... i wonder what happened.
<tcr> drewc: The site seems to be quite sluggish, why's that? Apart from that, quite cool. :)
<stesch> drewc: The user doesn't care about frameworks.
<drewc> tcr: that's my demo box, a k6-2 500!
<Xach> heh
<drewc> Stesch: the user doesn't care about URLs
<Xach> here's a nickel, kid! buy yourself a pentium 3!
<drewc> stesch: the only people i ever here complain about the URLs are developers.. i have never even had a user mention them.
<drewc> *hear
<Xach> i complained about broadvision URLs once
<Xach> to save state they emitted a C program, converted it to a GIF file that was a picture of the text, base64 encoded it, and made it part of the URL
<Xach> at least it seemed that way from the length of the URL
<azu> heh :)
<drewc> Xach: lol :)
<drewc> my girlfriend just asked my about urls the other day. "what is a URL" "it's the 'name' of a web resource, what you see in the address field of your browser" "you mean like hotmail.com?" "yeah" "i thought that was called a domain name!"... :)
<Xach> it's very cute
<awt> I like the alien lisp logo too
<awt> Now I need to write something to put it on
<baetis-fly> ditto. its great. does that guy hang out in #lisp? i loved casting spells when i first read it.
<jsnell> Xach: pretty subtle
<Xach> jsnell: sharp eyes!
<meatwad> minion, define prudence
<minion> does torturing a poor bot with things beyond its comprehension please you?
<meatwad> how do i... get the definition of a word?
<Xach> meatwad: http://answers.com/prudence
<meatwad> xach: thx
<mommer> hm... can anyone help me with an unicode question? I'm not getting much info from other sources, and as I know we have a bunch of experts here...
<Xach> mommer: ask away!
<stesch> Xach: Christian Lynbech's entry is linked to a apple.com page?
<mommer> I want to enable japanese support on my (linux) laptop. I wonder if i can set the locale locally for only one user. And, how to go about it (as you see, I'm 100% clueless on that)
<Xach> that's not a unicode question!
<stesch> Xach: Ah, Christian's RSS is to blame.
<mommer> no? oops.:O)
<Xach> stesch: nope, that's not the change...guess again!
<Thas> mommer: yes, tell your distro to build the locale data (dpkg-reconfigure locales on debian) and set the LANG environment variable somewhere (if the user logs in via a non-X route, a good place would be .bashrc for example)
<mommer> Thas: hm, i see....
<mommer> Thas: thanks. It seems I'm missing some fonts, though
<Thas> Yeah, that's another problem. Not one I can solve though, I've never touched non-european charsets.
<mommer> Well. The menus in Mozilla started to appear in japanese. Good that there exists C-M-Backspace :-)
<stesch> mommer: You know that you have to switch to Ruby when you are able to read and write Japanese.
<mommer> I presume I'll never get to that :-)
<mommer> It's for my neighbour. His laptop broke and he's just badly incomunicated.
<Xophe> oops
<beach> hello Xophe
<Xophe> hi, beach
<Xophe> yes, no more pixmap focus errors
<beach> good, good
<Xophe> it's at the stage where people can hack features in as they need them
<Xophe> (some features harder to hack than others...)
<beach> sure, but that's good news
<beach> this is a much nicer way of handling double buffering in my opinion
<Xophe> yes, indeed
<Xophe> beach: I don't suppose you have any particular desire to hack on gsharp at the moment?
<slyrus> well, the bad news is now all of my packages require my asdf "extensions" . the good news I've removed the OAOO violoations for all of my unix-dso and gcc-xml build stuff and banished the autotools demons.
<lichtblau> So where do I get SSL streams for non-Allegro?
<lichtblau> oh, from portableaserve cvs?
<beach> Xophe: depends
<Xophe> on whether there are interesting challenges left?
<beach> I am sure there are
<beach> what do you need?
<Xophe> Well, something I looked at briefly today and didn't make very much headway with was the spacing calculation
<Xophe> I am happy with the idea that lyrics elements need an onset and duration just as note elements
<Xophe> but lyrics are much more likely to require a horizontal extent in excess of their duration preferred width than ordinary chords are
<beach> yep
<Xophe> I found stuff in measure.lisp, but it was relatively opaque to me
<Xophe> you mentioned in section 13? of the documentation about how accidentals could have the same effect on ordinary chords
<Xophe> so at least at some point you probably had some idea of how you would introduce this...
<beach> yea, essentially, you need to have elements (including lyrics elements) know their widths so as to increase spacing when the width gets too large
<beach> this needs to be done for chords as well, especially with alterations
<Xophe> ok. I suppose the biggest barrier to people actually using it (and hence implementing the features that they need) is printing support
<Xophe> I have uncommitted mcclim code which allows printing to EPS
<Xophe> sorry, drawing to eps
<beach> Xophe: that's good. Does that include the pixmaps that Gsharp uses?
<Xophe> good question. No, probably not -- at least not without application support
<Xophe> we have a local hack for postscript device-fonts, but it is very much a hack
<beach> it would probably be a good idea to make pixmap drawing a McCLIM extension
<Xophe> anyway. Maybe I should set out my thoughts in an e-mail, as I fear it is past my bedtime now
<beach> sleep well
<Xophe> and what with us being at the opposite sides of the earth, we don't speak much in real time these days
<Xophe> thank you
<Xophe> enjoy your saturday :-)
<beach> will do :)
<vIkSiT> hmm.. when installing a package on sbcl - it asks me if lisp symbols are read as uppercase or not..
<vIkSiT> are they?
<rich_holygoat> yes.
<vIkSiT> Thanks. And what would you mean by 'symbols', exactly?
<kpreid> clhs symbol
<specbot> http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/t_symbol.htm
<vIkSiT> oh those..
<vIkSiT> i thought it was a sbcl thing
<beach> a symbol is what is used in Lisp for naming things like variables, cl***es, functions, etc
<vIkSiT> but why would it matter if they're uppercase or lowercase?
<vIkSiT> beach, right..
<beach> vIkSiT: a symbol has a unique name that is determined from the sequence of characters in the source
<beach> vIkSiT: usually, the Lisp reader translates those characters to uppercase
<vIkSiT> Ah I see. so no matter how I type them - they're matched with an uppsecase version?
<vIkSiT> right..
<beach> vIkSiT: but you can alter that behavior
<vIkSiT> so, i could potentially type dEfUN and get away with it..
<beach> yes
<vIkSiT> heh, are there lisp obfuscation contests anywhere? :)
<vIkSiT> but i don't think you can go further than that to obfuscate lisp code..
<beach> much
<pjb> vIkSiT: no, it's too easy.
<vIkSiT> beach, "much" ?
<vIkSiT> pjb, it is?
<beach> you can go much further
<vIkSiT> oh.. any places i can sample such code?
<vIkSiT> should be interesting
<beach> people tend not to do it, but you could play with reader macros, macros, compiler macros, symbol names, etc
<vIkSiT> I see
<beach> imagine for instance naming all your variables with a sequence of spaces, or with a sequence of `-': (- - --)
<vIkSiT> woo, you can do that?
<sebell> It's usually a waste of time, since with reader macros you could theoretically have any text at all produce any kind of code
<vIkSiT> I see.
<vIkSiT> btw, how would you use let to make a variable through a seq of spaces?
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