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<lament> REdward: see, that's quite obviously debatable
<REdward> a lot
<ivan`> i've got a dynamic ip
<lament> REdward: as in, many people disagree for obvious reasons
<klafka> see just do away with limited resources
<klafka> bam
<lament> REdward: i.e. it's your opinion, but that doesn't mean it should be law :)
<Frederick> Oki here is the deal, I got a grammar I simple cant find out a freaking way to simplify and I got a test about it tommorw, I would appreciate help
<klafka> the whole idea of needing property rights goes away
<klafka> so find a way to do away with limited resources
<lament> yes
<REdward> well obviously fat ex-musicians disagree
<dsb> what grammar do you have?
<Frederick> dsb, lemmerafb it
<lament> klafka: all we need is a perpetual motion machine capable of composing music!
<klafka> exactly =P
<ivan`> klafka, yeah, that's been my opinion for a year or so
<ivan`> copyright is only needed because of limited resources
<ivan`> people might only pay for very specialized services in the future
<REdward> copyright isn't really needed
<klafka> well i was talking in generalities
<klafka> the reason people care about property is because there is a finite amount of it
<REdward> but plagiarism should be guarded against
<klafka> land, music, etc...
<lament> REdward: why?
<dsb> I do not know lemmerafb it
<ivan`> heh, plagiarism
<ivan`> that's stupid
<ivan`> PGP signed documents, etc
<ivan`> to verify authenticity
<Frederick> dsb, http://rafb.net/paste/results/LZuQtc89.html
<ivan`> plagiarism is OK
<ivan`> unless you're learning or something
<REdward> it makes sense that someone should get credit for their work
<ivan`> people should take measures so that people know who made the work
<ivan`> this might be slightly harder in the future
<lament> REdward: why? :P
<ivan`> but still easy to solve
<REdward> :o
<REdward> mainly because people are lying weasels :P
<Frederick> dsb, I get stuck into a freaking recursion when I try to make step 2 that is remove variables that substitute other variables, any idea?
<REdward> happy 26 Oct 2005
<ivan`> 9:01pm
<ivan`> you're in the wrong timezone
<REdward> no, you are
<Frederick> 2 am and I got test 8 am Im doomed
<REdward> i live here and i'm God so this is the right one
<lament> if you were god
<Frederick> dsb, Have you understood what Ive posted?
<lament> you would be stationary with respect to MBR
<dsb> No, not really
<REdward> i am stationary with respect to myself
<REdward> and since i'm all that matters
<REdward> it's all ok
<Frederick> dsb, are ou familiar with grammars?
<dsb> No
<Frederick> =/
<dsb> sorry
<dsb> is G a set with 4 elements?
<REdward> people are talking about grammars in here like all the time
<Frederick> REdward, ppl seem to be dead
<dsb> with the some subsets
<REdward> that is trueish
<dsb> line 1?
<Frederick> dsb, a grammar is a set o variables, terminals productions and a starting symbol
<dukttape> Frederick: you're trying to reduce the grammar?
<Frederick> dukttape, yes
<Frederick> dukttape, I get stuck into a point
<Frederick> I get like an infinite recursion trying to solve it cant find a way to get rid of the variables
<dukttape> Frederick: i never simplified grammar, but is the point to get rid of a non-terminal?
<dsb> ok, I found an entry on wiki, so is G your alphabet?
<nano_sor> how do i write a differential equation for: the rate of change of y with respect to x varies jointly as x and L-y.
<SourceCode> dy/dx = k*x*(L - y) with k != 0
<SourceCode> io think
<SourceCode> if you gotta solve it notice it's separable
<nano_sor> um..i don't understand what "varies jointly means
<SourceCode> z varies jointly as x and y" means that there is a nonzero constant k such that z = k x y
<SourceCode> http://www.okc.cc.ok.us/maustin/Variation/Variation-ma.htm
<dsb> ok, so G is your grammar, you have P and S which are your productions and starting point
<SourceCode> so your x is just x, and your y is L-y, from the definition
<dsb> your (S,A,B,C) would be your variables? and terminals (a,b,c) ?
<encoded> @mbot help
<mbot> encoded: "See http://documents.wolfram.com/v5/ for detailed Mathematica help."
<encoded> @mbot nout help
<mbot> encoded: "See http://documents.wolfram.com/v5/ for detailed Mathematica help."
<mbot> *nout
<encoded> @mbot input help
<mbot> encoded: "See http://documents.wolfram.com/v5/ for detailed Mathematica help."
<mbot> *input
<encoded> @mbot help input
<mbot> encoded: "See http://documents.wolfram.com/v5/ for detailed Mathematica help."
<mbot> *input
<ivan`> @mbot suicide
<encoded> arg
<mbot> ivan`: suicide
<encoded> i want syntax!
<ivan`> square brackets
<encoded> @mbot Integrate[cos[x]]
<mbot> encoded: Integrate[cos[x]]
<encoded> @mbot Integrate[Cos[x]]
<mbot> encoded: Integrate[Cos[x]]
<encoded> @mbot integrate[Cos[x]]
<mbot> encoded: integrate[Cos[x]]
<encoded> @mbot integrate[Cos[x], x]
<mbot> encoded: integrate[Cos[x], x]
<ivan`> heh heh heh
<encoded> @mbot integrate[Cos x, x]
<ivan`> i don't know it either
<mbot> encoded: integrate[Cos*x, x]
<encoded> @mbot integrate[Cos x, dx]
<mbot> encoded: integrate[Cos*x, dx]
<encoded> @mbot Integrate[Cos x, x]
<mbot> encoded: (Cos*x^2)/2
<encoded> at last!
<timl_> mbot: Integrate[x*x, x]
<encoded> use @
<timl_> ahr
<ivan`> @mbot Integrate[Cos[x], x]
<mbot> ivan`: Sin[x]
<JabberWalkie> @mbot help
<mbot> JabberWalkie: "See http://documents.wolfram.com/v5/ for detailed Mathematica
<mbot> help."
<encoded> @mbot Integrate[Cos[x], x]
<mbot> encoded: Sin[x]
<encoded> @mbot Derivate[Cos[x], x]
<mbot> encoded: Derivate[Cos[x], x]
<ivan`> D[]
<JabberWalkie> just D
<encoded> @mbot D[Cos[x], x]
<mbot> encoded: -Sin[x]
<encoded> @mbot Expand[x^2-4]
<mbot> encoded: -4 + x^2
<encoded> doesnt expand
<encoded> @mbot [x^2-4]
<mbot> encoded: Terminated
<mbot>
<encoded> @mbot [(x-2)*(x+2)]
<mbot> encoded: Terminated
<mbot>
<encoded> @mbot [(x-2)*(x-2)]
<mbot> encoded: Terminated
<mbot>
<encoded> arg
<Jids> i have a question which says "The legs of a right-angled triangle are 5 and 10, while the hypotenuse of a similar triangle is 15." <-- are the legs the sides of the right angle? (note: this question is just for clarification)
<ivan`> there's only 3 sides on a triangle
<ivan`> of course they're on the sides of the right angle
<encoded> yes
<JabberWalkie> i didn't know triangles had legs........at least my triangles have never ran away on me....
<Jids> just making sure it's not one side and the hypotenuse
<Jids> heh
<encoded> lol
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