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<sigusr1> ?
<sigusr1> culture?
<geist> yeah, finland is very pervasive
<geist> you see it everywhere
<mur> heh popular music recent: HIM, nightwish,
<mur> um. heh
<sigusr1> ...
<mur> heh
<sigusr1> is gunter from finland?
<mur> finland has very many cl***ical music compositors, most famous sibelius i guess
<mur> and of course the superioir finnish language :)
<geist> oh yeah, the finland airforce flies the Draken
<geist> I always thought that was a neat looking plane
<mur> eh draken?
<geist> Saab #f
<geist> 3F even
<geist> er 35F
<geist> (damn, I can't type today)
<mur> they bought some bad*** hornets though
<geist> http://www.scramble.nl/draken.htm
<mur> i think it cost way too much
<geist> yeah
<mur> geist is into military stuff?:P
<geist> I've always followed planes
<sigusr1> hmmm, bunch of AK knockoffs.
<geist> looks like finland bought equally from the west and the soviets
<sigusr1> yah
<geist> interesting. so finland is restricted to defensive military only
<geist> guess finland "lost"?
<mur> heh, to east. russia. to west.. sweden. they never react to anything.
<mur> i woudl say yes, but most finns say they won defensive battle or some foo
<geist> right
<mur> anyways, finland lost some areas but kept independece or soemthign
<geist> looks like it's pretty complicated. fought the soviets most of the time, but fought the germans a bit at the end
<mur> the germans burned half of the finland down in the lapland
<mur> in the end of battle
<mur> and they escaped to norway
<geist> so how do the finns like their neighbors?
<mur> people are very against russias
<geist> what about the new russian states?
<mur> estonians, who has neighbour langugae, are treated like little brother
<mur> and no one remembers norway is finnish neighbour
<mur> and sweden is like normal neighbours, the jokes and competition and such
<mur> like americans talkabout canadians you know
<geist> yeah
<geist> except the language is different
<sigusr1> hmmm
<sigusr1> sweeden I know what comes from.
<mur> finns dont care about russian states. there is just one russia :P
<geist> but what about estonia?
<sigusr1> isn't that the country in dilbert?
<mur> as i said they are like little brother
<mur> to finns, estonians see it a bit differently though heh
<geist> that's what I meant by russian states. I meant the former states
<geist> estonia, latvia, etc
<mur> aaah
<geist> 100% literacy, impressive
<mur> there's st. petersburg really near ,but basically people dont give a **** to it. people are more interested in stockholm, but it seems, as a finn, very far away to me
<mur> finnish society model is very co-operative
<mur> state, local firms, people, organisatios all co-operate seemingly
<mur> interseting
<mur> draken engine weights 7600 kg, while everythign in total witouht gasoline is 8000kg
<mur> i wonder if this can be true :P
<geist> doesn't sound right to me
<mur> yeah, i must have misunderstood it
<mur> i guess i should hack some sleep
<mur> geist, ok, gn
<geist> nite
<mur> trans, gn
<trans> sorry, was eating dinner
<trans> night mur
<sigusr1> wohooo
<sigusr1> found my first decent item
<sigusr1> too bad I can't use it.
<sigusr1> heh
<araujo> Anyone good with signals?
<cdm> in what way?
<araujo> I wanna know if it ispossible for child processes to inherit signalhandlers from the parents
<cdm> depends on if there has been an exec or not.
<cdm> If the child is just a fork, then yes.
<araujo> mm.. well, yes, there is an exec involve
<araujo> I just want a way to catch a signal from the inner (child) processes but handled by the outer (parent) ones
<cdm> so you want to propigate the signal out?
<araujo> Well, i amnot sure how to do it really.
<araujo> Probably i am attacking the problem from a wrong perspective?
<cdm> maybe.
<cdm> signals are gross. ;)
<araujo> Well, what i want to do is a way to catch SIGINT from a child process using exec , so i can avoid the parent to exit
<araujo> Kind of what the shells do.
<cdm> You can probably set SIG_IGN before the exec.
<cdm> and that will probably be honoured.
<cdm> as long as the child doesn't override.
<araujo> cdm, mm.. ok, let me try that, Thanks!
<araujo> cdm, could you please elaborate a bitmore? :-]
<cdm> Read the manpage on signal()?
<araujo> cdm, yeah, and that's what i am doing, ignoring the process, but it doesn't work
<cdm> ignoring the process?
<araujo> sorry, ignoring the signal
<araujo> I want that the child processes to exit and return to the parent ones.
<trans> what is a good name for a function that finds an irc channel in a list based on a window pointer stored with the channel instead of the channel name?
<cuebol> Much better.
<geist> yawn
<geist> sup folks
<sigusr1> heh
<sigusr1> yo
<geist> been paying some HL2 with the new demo map
<sigusr1> how is it?
<geist> my machine aint fast enough to run it smoothly, but it sure is pretty
<sigusr1> so I'm running around the n00b island buildign that skill up
<geist> yeah you can make lots of cash off that
<geist> just sell it all on AH
<sigusr1> also, need it or a buddy with one for learning how to cure poison
<geist> also, look into the Auctioneer plugin
<geist> it keeps a db of previous auctions and tracks the current value and suggested price, etc
<geist> it's pretty awesome
<sigusr1> oh cool
<sigusr1> ;)
<geist> yeah, even the non epic aint cheap
<geist> 80gp + 20gp to learn to ride one
<sigusr1> jesus
<sigusr1> do they want my firstborn child with that?
<geist> it's not too bad. with the later herbs, you can make 1gp or so per item
<geist> just casually walking around picking up herbs as I do my bidness I can usually make 20gp or so per sitting
<geist> the skills get to be a big drain on your money as you go up in levels. the trainers want 1.5g or so per skill up in the 40s
<cdm> you guys talking about WoW?
<geist> yeah
<cdm> how is CIV4?
<sigusr1> ouch
<geist> it's pretty good, though it feels a bit slow on my peecee
<geist> which is an athlon64 3000+
<geist> guess it's no longer fast
<sigusr1> but your bits are twice as big!
<geist> though supposedly most of the game logic is written in python, so I can imagine the immediate logic slowdown
<sigusr1> Hmmm.
<sigusr1> I guess I really shouldn't be worring that much about cash right now anyway though.
<geist> yeah though you should always be making some
<geist> as you go higher up the skill trainers will use up most of the cash you'd make by just selling stuff you find
<sigusr1> gotcha
<geist> also having extra cash is nice, you can go buy blue items from the AH, which makes a really big differece. I bought a super nice 2 handed mace at 36 or so that pretty much made my character kick *** until about 44
<geist> I was pretty much above the curve. the hammer was like 40gp and used up a good chunk of my money, but it was the best that money could buy for that level
<sigusr1> *nods*
<geist> I just found a staff that's marginally better
<geist> anyhoo, I should hax a bit on my ukernel
<geist> I think I'm gonna write it in c++
<geist> KRAZEE
<sigusr1> yay, c++
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