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<amiconn> markun: Imho you should check for build problems before commit. I do...
<Bagder> dual amd 1600mhz
<LinusN> Bagder: i believe it's the disk, not the cpu
<markun> amiconn: I did, but using FreeBSD I always have some patches applied to get rockbox to compile
<Bagder> LinusN: I think you're right
<LinusN> still crawler DOS'ing?
<Bagder> I don't think so
<chopped_pork> woo crossfade
<LinusN> cross*feed*
<chopped_pork> feed
<_FireFly_> ;)
<chopped_pork> yes
<chopped_pork> sorry
<chopped_pork> typo
<chopped_pork> ^^
<ep0ch|> markun: is crossfeed more effecient than the previous crossfeed patch?
<markun> yes
<ep0ch|> excellent :)
<preglow> and i'll see if it's easy to optimise approximately now
<Bagder> it sure is nice to see the h300 build gone yellow
<LedFloyd> um, i don't know if I'm allowed to speak in here, but what exactly does "yellow" mean? some sort of status?
<markun> warnings
<chopped_pork> markun: any estimate on when unicode will be in cvs?
<markun> chopped_pork: no, don't ask me :)
<Bagder> LedFloyd: check the cvs build table and you'll see
<chopped_pork> looks lovely as already noted :)
<markun> The problem is that one of the archos rockbox versions gets too big with unicode
<chopped_pork> oh
<markun> One sollution is the optimize till it fits, the other is to compress the rockbox image and extract it in memory
<amiconn> It probably (hopefully?) will fit when TiMiD finishes multiscreen support and some old functions can be removed
<amiconn> Currently a number of functions are included twice, like splash()
<chopped_pork> is your work available as a patch somewhere? it's so cool it might finally make me setup a crosscompiling enviroment so i can have my own rockbox compile :>
<amiconn> Afair unicode did fit before the multiscreen work
<markun> yes, it did.
<_FireFly_> amiconn: a quick solution for splash would be to replace each left splash call with gui_syncsplash
<markun> chopped_pork: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1267994
<chopped_pork> thanks markun
<_FireFly_> and i think the same could be done for the two functions in widget.c
<markun> The summary is outdated, but cannot be changed
<amiconn> It's not only splash(), it's splash(), statusbar, button bar and probably others
<chopped_pork> is there any guide available to making a build environment in linux? (running gentoo here)
<Bagder> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler
<chopped_pork> is it possible to build rockbox (coldfire flavor) with gcc4 or is that a bad idea?
<Bagder> bad idea
<_FireFly_> amiconn: yepp at least in 10 files in which status_draw is called
<chopped_pork> alrighty, thanks again
<preglow> chopped_pork: it works just fine
<chopped_pork> given i'll have the time, would it be of any use if i did a .ebuild for gentoo?
<Bagder> chopped_pork: it could make a few people happy, I'd say
<_FireFly_> markun: it's me or does crossfeed lower the volume a bit??
<markun> _FireFly_: yes, quite a bit
<_FireFly_> and i think it is a also little dull
<_FireFly_> the sound
<markun> Yes, I also think so :)
<markun> But it works very well for some recordings with extreme stereo.
<markun> beatles, jimi hendrix..
<preglow> markun: you told me about some crossfeed plugin author you were going to mail, did that happen?
<_FireFly_> so there is space for improvements :)
<markun> _FireFly_: feel free to improve it
<Maxou`> what's "crossfeed"?
<markun> Maxou`: http://www.naivesoftware.com/software.html
<Maxou`> hum
<Maxou`> ok
<_FireFly_> markun i think the prvious one had an better sound then this one
<preglow> the previous one didn't differ in sound
<markun> _FireFly_: I didn't change any of the values I think
<preglow> no, everything of importance is the same
<bitmastro> hi
<markun> bona sera
<bitmastro> At first, thanks to linuxn for the screenshot.. I'm still crying
<bitmastro> :-D
<bitmastro> second.. I was thinking... the last popular codec missing is the wma, right?
<XavierGr> yes and I don't think that we will see this thing soon
<preglow> what screenshot?
<amiconn> preglow: Regarding the 64 bit mul routines - I have no idea how to contribute them. They obviously don't fix a bug, and I have no idea where they have to be placed in the gcc source, so I can't file a patch either
<preglow> XavierGr: we just might, someone's done a bit of the work for us
<preglow> amiconn: mailinglist, perhaps?
<bitmastro> preglow: the rockbox logo on the h300
<preglow> bitmastro: url?
<markun> hey, the build should be finished by now..
<_FireFly_> markun: ok it was the song on which crossfeed has a bad drawback to the sound
<bitmastro> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverPort/h300_lcd.jpg
<preglow> markun: should, but it's not
<amiconn> LinusN: The H300 baclight is hooked to some kind of pwm output, so it's dimmable in hardware?
<bitmastro> ah.. I was saying.. about the wma... anyone looked at the neuros code?
<Moos> markun: the prediction isn't very accurate like somwhere ;)
<markun> preglow: maybe because I changed some .h files that caused a lot to recompile
<preglow> markun: doubtless, that'd fool ccache
<preglow> bitmastro: neuros doesn't distribute the wma code
<bitmastro> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/neuros-firmware/neuros-firmware/source/TISTD/wma_ti.c?rev=1.5&view=markup
<bitmastro> it seems to me like it's a fixed point implementation
<preglow> or does it...
<preglow> bitmastro: that looks like a dsp interface to me
<elinenbe> LinusN: quick question... will rockbox boot on the H300 now?
<XavierGr> preglow: who did the work? Is there a major chance for WMA then?
<amiconn> markun: Crossfeed wastes a .lang string, imho.
<preglow> XavierGr: someone on the forums posted a partially fixed point converted version of the wma decoder in libffmpeg
<amiconn> In stead of "Enabled crossfeed" = yes/no in the setting itself it would be better to use "Crossfeed" = On/Off
<elinenbe> preglow: that's awesome!
<preglow> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1258.0
<amiconn> Wasted .lang strings are bad because they increase binary size for all targets...
<Bagder> at your service!
<preglow> elinenbe: awesome, yes, but someone still needs to work on it
<preglow> i wont be
<amiconn> Bagder: [23:38:26] <amiconn> Wasted .lang strings are bad because they increase binary size for all targets...
<Moos> Bagder: what's about your V2 localisation ? XD
<Bagder> it was just a bit too much work for my little time I spend on rockbox these days
<Bagder> so its still pending
<Moos> hehe :)
<preglow> markun: do remember that the highp*** filter isn't really good, though
<Bagder> someone else is free to take the ball and run for it
<preglow> markun: and btw, the comment for apply_crossfeed is on crack
<ashridah> hey, did that multiscreen WPS widget stuff get merged?
<Bagder> red red red red red
<Bagder> and red
<Moos> :)
<Midgey34> oh man, newest build is crazy
<thegeek_> please elaborate
<Midgey34> the redness I mean
<Moos> isn't critical markun will fix this ;)
<Midgey34> I know :)
<Midgey34> I still excited by linus' progress on the h300
<]RowaN[> guys what is this "crossfeed dsp effect" thing
<XavierGr> ok I know that it is a rockbox policy to hold columns in source below 80. But I use a very big text paragraph? How can I break this in multiple lines?
<Bagder> very big text paragraph?
<Bagder> you mean comment?
<XavierGr> No fdprint
<Bagder> you can write "string"
<Bagder> "string2"
<_FireFly_> ah got the volume drawback a bit lower :)
<Bagder> "string3"
<Bagder> and they are concatenated by the compiler
<XavierGr> so you recommend breaking 507 characters in 7 strings?
<XavierGr> it seems very tiresome to me
<Bagder> at least, yes
<markun> Don't think this is cause by my commit, is it?
<Bagder> no
<Bagder> it looks like LinusN's commit is involved
<Bagder> seeing the backlight references
<ashridah> weird
<Febs> ]RowaN[, crossfeed feeds a little of the right channel into the left and vice versa.
<Febs> It simulates the experience you get when you are listening to speakers instead of headphones ...
<Febs> With speakers, the sound bounces off walls, floors, etc before it gets to you.
<]RowaN[> ah, i'll have to give it a go
<Febs> With headphones, it doesn't.
<Febs> So many feel that crossfeed makes headphones sound more natural.
<ashridah> ]RowaN[: most music is mixed ***uming you're listening with speakers. some music has some instruments completely on one side only. it also has the effect of making what you're listening to sound like it's inside your head. crossfeed should make it sound like it's infront of you too.
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