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<moiristo> does someone know if rockbox will come out for gmini400? or is it just wishful thinking?
<muesli-> rather a wish if you ask me
<muesli-> takes a long time to write a bootloader..not done within short time..
<moiristo> ok..there were some rumours about some sources being available..that's why i'm asking
<muesli-> it was MY opinion only...so dont count on me as a serious source cos im not a dev
<moiristo> oh ok..well recently some programmers were able to run code on the 400, maybe you heard of the gamegear emu..but these things should speed up development i guess :)
<linuxstb> AFAIK, there is no development to speed up - no-one is working on a Rockbox port to the 400.
<moiristo> ok..thnx for the infos
<muesli-> Xavierakles :D
<XavierGr> O hiyo!
<muesli-> who's pita goin`?
<muesli-> how
<XavierGr> very well I ate one for lunch! :D
<muesli-> :)
<markun> amiconn: it's not a define. I can make you a new patch if you want or you can comment out the code yourself.
<markun> amiconn: in bidi.c comment out #include "arabjoin.h", arab_lookup, arabjoin and the call to arabjoin on row 152
<reinaert> exit
<amiconn> Slasher: I see yellow! :/
<markun> amiconn: I can make a patch for bidi.c if you want
<baobab68> hi all
<JdGordon> hi
<JdGordon> any1 know about plugin coding for rb?
<tucoz> hi
<markun> hi tucoz
<tucoz> have you recieved your gigabeat yet?
<markun> no, I hope on monday
<tucoz> cool.
<markun> It will be a long way before rockbox works, but I have just encoded a movie on 320x240 (320x148) at 10 fps to see how it would look :)
<markun> If we can get ffmpeg running
<muesli_-> wohoo :D
<markun> would be fun :)
<markun> Someone with a H300 can start working on it of course.
<tucoz> yes, and that unit will probably have the power to run it
<tucoz> Although I have no idea how a coldfire@120Mhz compares to an arm@300
<markun> I hope so. The Gigabeat has about 2x the number of pixels, so maybe it's still not that much faster than the coldfire
<markun> But I don't know how the number of pixels influense the decoding speed
<tucoz> It really looks great as well. A friend with a video-ipod said that my h120 looks like a walkie-talkie. I have to agree on that. At least with the ugly leather protection case.
<tucoz> which one is that you have bought?
<markun> F40
<markun> There was a F60 for sale on ebay today that wasn't much more expensive.. ah well..
<tucoz> what is the difference? hard disk, or something else as well?
<markun> only hard disk
<tucoz> ok
<_FireFly_> i guess the F60 has a 60gb disk :)
<Jungti1234> ow
<Jungti1234> morning
<XavierGr> what hard disk does Fseries utilize?
<tucoz> cool, you can tilt the unit to get proper aspect ratio
<markun> XavierGr: toshiba of course :)
<tucoz> wasn't 320x240 the aspect ratio of mode-x? I think I remember that 320x200 was what you got from vga-cards back in the day.
<XavierGr> so can it take a 1.8 drive of a greater capacity. E.g can an f20 (if there is) hold a 60gb disk?
<tucoz> And that didn't have square pixels.
<muesli_-> is there anybody here with a patched and working h300 fw?
<markun> XavierGr: same problem as iriver. F20 can only have single pletter hdd
<tucoz> oh, it doesn't have video-playback in the stock fw?
<XavierGr> but I know that this relates to the size of the player not the number of platters, no? Or do you mean that the F20 is too small for a double platter disk?
<markun> tucoz: no video
<tucoz> markun, I wonder why. Anyway, video should look pretty good on it. :)
<baobab68> DreamTactix291: hey man you guys were right about the mp3 conversions
<tucoz> good night.
<baobab68> muesli_-: yes
<muesli_-> i get 4mb for the patched korean fw, is that correct?
<JdGordon> ye
<baobab68> correct.
<baobab68> muesli-: make sure you run md5sum on it. as long as the checksum matches that shown on the wiki, it *should* be ok
<muesli-> but thats strange
<muesli-> it was 2.5mb before
<muesli-> and 4mb afterwards!
<baobab68> yeah i know.
<baobab68> even worse, you can apply skins to it with h3mod and it *still* works. (i'm only p***ing on the info, not recommending that you try it)
<baobab68> anyone here willing to discuss OGG formats for a couple minutes?
<Paul_The_Nerd> Well, OGG is really a container. The audio format is generally "Vorbis"
<Paul_The_Nerd> But what was the question?
<baobab68> hi paul
<Paul_The_Nerd> Hola
<baobab68> more of the same from yesterday i am afraid.
<baobab68> listened to a few of those transcoded (shock!) MP3 and they were in fact sh*t.
<Paul_The_Nerd> So, what's the new question then?
<baobab68> so now i am trying OGG. I've replaced my ogg and vorbis dll's with the latest aotuv dll's, and you guys were right, vorbis is better at lower bit rates.
<baobab68> so, new question is...
<baobab68> which is preferable - quality based encoding or using bitrate options?
<Paul_The_Nerd> Generally speaking, quality based.
<baobab68> quality based doesn't seem to 'sound' as good to me, but is faster to encode. bitrate slower but better?
<Paul_The_Nerd> Well, in the end go with what sounds best to you.
<baobab68> either way i can get files about the same size as my evil WMAs and which i can only *just* hear the difference form the sources
<baobab68> form=from
<baobab68> so you and DreamTactix291 can feel good that at least some of what u said rubbed off.
<Paul_The_Nerd> Heh
<baobab68> i really appreciate the time u guys took to discuss that stuff.
<Paul_The_Nerd> I still say it's a bad idea for you to be transcoding. I really can't predict which ways will end up sounding better in the end, but if using the bitrate options is creating better files it may work out better for yah
<baobab68> i plan to do my 4 star rated files (1800 of them) first and see how the total file size and quality suit me.
<baobab68> and RB is totally fine with OGG, right?
<Paul_The_Nerd> Yeah
<baobab68> battery life?
<baobab68> iriver firmware is reputed to **** battery when playing ogg
<markun> The same is true for rockbox.
<markun> Buy a bigger battery and you'll be fine
<Paul_The_Nerd> It's not that huge of a difference though.
<markun> Or get preglow to do more optimisations :)
<Paul_The_Nerd> I mean, it's not like it lasts half as long or anything
<markun> I only have Ogg files, so I can't tell the difference
<baobab68> i plan to buy an ipod 1st gen battery soon
<baobab68> (sorry, i said ipod)
<markun> And I have a 2200mAh battery
<baobab68> that's what i will go for. just a matter of swapping the -ve and +ve leads, right?
<markun> baobab68: btw it's pronounces Ogg, after a character from the discworld series.
<markun> yes, very simple
<baobab68> markun: presume we're both talking h3xx, right?
<markun> baobab68: What kind of bitrate settings were you talking about btw? setting the upper and lower bitrate?
<markun> H120
<baobab68> oh, ok. still, mostly same circuitry except screen, in terms of battery drain.
<Paul_The_Nerd> Actually, Ogg wasn't named after the Discworld character
<Paul_The_Nerd> It's somewhere in the FAQ at the site.
<Paul_The_Nerd> But apparently Vorbis was.
<markun> It wasn't? Hm, I was listening to some audio books and both Ogg and Vorbis were in them.
<Paul_The_Nerd> Yeah, there is an Ogg character in Discworld
<Paul_The_Nerd> But the Ogg name for the container was taken from somewhere else.
<baobab68> one more RB question - is there any way to customise the front RB screen to have name and contact details on it?
<baobab68> that's the main reason i skinned my iriver firmware.
<Paul_The_Nerd> Well, it's open source.
<Paul_The_Nerd> So, theoretically the answer to almost any "is there any way to customise" question is "yes"
<markun> "Nor is it named after 'Nanny Ogg' from the Terry Pratchett book Wyrd Sisters."
<markun> "An 'Ogg' (pronounced [Og]) is a tactical maneuver from the network game 'Netrek' that has entered common usage in a wider sense."
<markun> baobab68: which from RB screen? startup screen?
<ashridah> baobab68: the bootup logo? yeah, i'm pretty sure it's an bmp2rb'ed .bmp file that's been tacked into apps/gui/logo.c
<ashridah> not sure where the colour one goes tho
<baobab68> compiling my own customer .rockbox folder is beyond my skill set I'm afraid
<baobab68> customer=custom
<markun> you can always learn. All the info is in the wiki
<Paul_The_Nerd> Yeah, there's a step by step guide
<baobab68> i suppose i could make a WPS with my name in the status bar area.
<Paul_The_Nerd> THere's not much you yourself have to know.
<Paul_The_Nerd> You could also just create a .txt file in the root folder called "Context Info, ClickMe" or something
<baobab68> kind of more useful actually, the WPS way. if "my" WOPS was the only one on the machine, the user could never get rid of me.
<Paul_The_Nerd> I mean, if someone finds it, they'd have to want to return it anyway. If they did, they'd see that and click it.
<Paul_The_Nerd> Contact, not context
<baobab68> i was about to say that.
<baobab68> they'd have to prise it from my cold dead hands most of the time....
<baobab68> well time for breakfast. thank you again for the information.
<ashridah> someone could probably rig up a build for him later on that has the customisations he needs
<ashridah> if he wants to stay up to date he's going to want to start building it himself tho :)
<JonSenior> Hi guys
<ashridah> this party isn't quite completely stag, you know ;)
<Paul_The_Nerd> Well, he's on H3X0 right now, so rigging up a build for him any time soon, it'll be outdated quickly
<ashridah> Paul_The_Nerd: well, yes, hence 'later on'
<Paul_The_Nerd> Hehehe
<Paul_The_Nerd> I imagine I'll end up doing things like that.
<Paul_The_Nerd> I like to try to be helpful, and that's within the range of "Things I can do"
<JonSenior> Benacool: Are you currently reading?
<JdGordon> hey LinusN, quick q.. is there any way to get the date/time in rb?
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