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<Groovy> sometimes Konqueror crashes, is that normal?
<OSPanic> ok, but I have only to add this service in the runlevel list. I can't find this service. Is it possible to add services manual?
<Alviss> Konqueror will crash sometimes.
<Groovy> yes
<shastry> so no one here has a connexant internal winmodem ?
<Kentaur> Can I make firefox autostart in fullscreen mode in SUSE?
<Jahooty> linux users avoid winmodems like hte plague
<Groovy> true
<shastry> my external modem died..
<shastry> i am stuck with internal one..
<shastry> i cant buy a new one cos its very very costly :(
<Jahooty> my advice get a cheap internal non-win modem
<Jahooty> where are you from?
<Groovy> internal modem 56k are cheap
<shastry> India
<Jahooty> ahh, that does make a difference
<Alviss> I'm from 4 blocks away from the Kernel development lab.
<|marvin|> hallo
<Jahooty> maybe trade with a friend who uses windows?
<Jahooty> i had an old modem lying around i could just mail to you...but it hink it's actually an ISA modem....which is ooooooooooold
<shastry> Jahooty, most of the times, postage is costlier than the original device
<Jahooty> heh, yeah
<Jahooty> my advice is find some surpluss stores and try to find a used one
<Jahooty> http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/
<Jahooty> maybe look here
<shastry> umm
<shastry> ok
<Jahooty> it might be able to tell you if it can even possibly work
<Jahooty> even better: http://linmodems.org/
<deufo> hey peeps, i ran alsaconf and now yast can't detect my sound card...
<shastry> Jahooty, it works .. but the driver is payware!
<Jahooty> d'oh!
<shastry> i need a key atleast
<shastry> else it connects at 14400 speed instead of 56000
<Jahooty> oh, that ****s
<shastry> very
<shastry> i'll be back soon.. power cut
<deufo> i just upgraded from 9.3 to 10 but i messed up, is there a way to reinstall the upgrade again?
<Alviss> deufo: You might just want to do a fresh install.
<deufo> Alviss, but i got all of it configured correctly b4 the update
<Alviss> Once the Kernel is updated, I don't know that there is anything that you can do to (at least not easily) to revert to the old Kernel version.
<Jahooty> how did it screw up?
<deufo> Jahooty, i ignored some packages that didn't install during upgrade
<Jahooty> how badly is it borked?
<deufo> Jahooty, no sound
<deufo> Jahooty, just that :P, that other messed up stuff i can live with
<deufo> Johooty, so sound i can't
<deufo> *no
<Jahooty> you can't install the packages outside of the update?
<deufo> Jahooty,i can't remember which ones i ignored....
<deufo> those had md5um errors
<Jahooty> check anythihng related to sound, arts, alsa, oss
<deufo> Jahooty, i just reinstalled alsa and stuff, going to see if it works now
<deufo> Jahooty, when i try to use yast to config my sound card, it says "the kernelmodule snd-hda-intel for sound support cannot be loaded"
<Jahooty> you got /home on the same partition?
<deufo> Jahooty yep
<Jahooty> oh, ouch
<deufo> ll
<deufo> lol
<Jahooty> i had that too, lost like 12 gigs of mp3's
<deufo> !!!!
<deufo> no way round it?
<Jahooty> no, well i had a bad dvd drive that totally borked my update
<Jahooty> but that's why i keep home on a seperate partition
<deufo> damn, i wish someone told me that when i first installed
<Jahooty> yeah, i knew it but i did it on one partition just to not have unused space on the root parition
<deufo> hmmmm, sigh guess i'll have to reinstall?
<Jahooty> maybe not
<krenin> morning
<Jahooty> can you download and compile your own snd-whatchimajigger?
<deufo> Jahooty, hmmmm how will that help?
<Jahooty> or, no try insmod
<Jahooty> insmod snd-somehing-something
<deufo> i can modprobe it
<deufo> and it shows up in lsmod
<Jahooty> ok
<Jahooty> but it can't load?
<deufo> it can load
<deufo> but yast says it can't
<Jahooty> try linuxquestions.org?
<deufo> hmmm
<deufo> sigh... i guess its abt time i tried out ubuntu :D
<Jahooty> anyways, this just went officially over my head, and i'm quicked tired
<Jahooty> ubuntu is ok, not much of a unified config tool tho
<deufo> this time i'll be sure to put home on another partition
<Jahooty> unless they got one now
<deufo> Jahooty, so which distro would u recommend?
<Jahooty> yeah, that way you can switch distros and never mess up your /home
<Jahooty> i love suse so far
<deufo> hmmmmmm
<Jahooty> mandrake is good, i know people who love ubuntu
<deufo> icic
<Jahooty> but mostly i judge by hhow good the repositories are and how good the setup utils are
<Jahooty> you might want to run some tests on your cd/dvd drive, i had a bad drive and that's what messed up my upgrade
<deufo> so suse is ur best so far?
<Jahooty> for me. i also know of some linux geeks who hate it
<Jahooty> if it installs ok, it should work fine for you
<deufo> ok
<Jahooty> you can also set up a multi boot system all using hte same home directory
<deufo> hmmmmmmm
<deufo> maybe i'll buy another hard disk
<Jahooty> http://www.surplussgeeks.com
<Jahooty> http://www.surplusgeeks.com
<deufo> hmmm, wat u think about solaris?
<Cenuij> slowlaris?
<Jahooty> the second one. isn't solaris Unix?
<deufo> yea
<Jahooty> never tried it
<deufo> ok
<Alviss> If you like pain-in-the-*** installs Solaris 10 is great.
<deufo> i got strange hardware so then only a few distro's work well on it out of the box
<Jahooty> what strange hardware?
<deufo> mobo's
<deufo> mobo
<Jahooty> oh. suse and mandrake are probably your best bet then
<deufo> icic
<deufo> i dun really like mandrake
<deufo> making u pay
<Jahooty> they have reputations for supporting alot of hardware
<deufo> hmmmmm
<Jahooty> or mandriva now
<deufo> oooo suse's gaining popularity on distrowatch rite now
<Jahooty> actually debian might be good, but i couldn't figure out their install
<Jahooty> yeah, coz 10.0 just came out
<mymayer> iam trying to connect to the Xserver of my server from remote. I`ve started Xorg, started my ap on the remote computer and now want to connect to that xserver. How to do that ?
<deufo> too bad suse's too bloated
<Jahooty> i don't mind the bloat so much, i have a decent machine, and it's still far less bloated than windows
<deufo> lol
<Jahooty> i have suse 9.3 on a 300 MHz machine, it's a bit slugish with KDE but it does run
<deufo> icic
<Jahooty> i like big comfortable software
<deufo> hmmmmmm
<deufo> how bigs ur hard disk?
<Alviss> Well, I am going to sleep. Later.
<Jahooty> i have a 120 GB sata
<Jahooty> night Alviss
<mymayer> Iam trying to connect to a running XSERVER. I`ve started /usr/X11/Xorg on the remote server, then started my app with "export DISPLAY=localhost:0". The app runs now, how to connect to that XServedr ? I got cygwin which provides me a xserver
<Jahooty> sorry, mymayer i never tried anything like that
<benJIman> mymayer: why not use ssh ?
<mymayer> benJIman iam using ssh ?
<Jahooty> night all
<deufo> nite
<benJIman> mymayer: just "ssh -X user@host" then run the program
<mymayer> benJIman|tov there is a xserver running on that mashine, i just wanna conenct and handle the apps running
<benJIman> mymayer: in that case you'd have to use freenx, xvnc, or the kde remote ***istance thing, or something like that
<mymayer> benJIman no i dont .)
<mymayer> thats the way Xserver works :)
<mymayer> just using cygwin
<benJIman> X forwarding with ssh the programs don't continue running when you disconnect
<mymayer> benJIman screen ?
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