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<gongoputch> cool
<patthoyts> works on windows (like a richtext widget) and Gtk
<ijchain> <LucMove> http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
<gongoputch> will there be an archive version of this audio later?
<patthoyts> yes
<patthoyts> emacs emacs emacs
<ijchain> <LucMove> "yet"?
<patthoyts> :P
<ijchain> <LucMove> he said "yet. I heard it
<ijchain> <torsten> OS "ten", Jeff ...
<ijchain> <dkf> EmacsEmacsEmacsEmacsEmacsEmacsEmacsEmacsEmacsEmacsNviNVI!
<ijchain> <torsten> nedit nedit
<ijchain> <stevel> vim
<patthoyts> snaaakke
<ijchain> <stevel> :)
<cleverly> vim vim vim
<ijchain> <rmax> ed
<ijchain> <torsten> joe joe
<ijchain> <dkf> aargh! it's xedit!
<ijchain> <torsten> no!
<ijchain> <LucMove> elvis - not dead
<ijchain> <stevel> em
<ijchain> <schlenk> nedit
<ijchain> <miguel> anybody's got something good to say about gedit?
<ijchain> <torsten> yes!
<ijchain> <rmax> edlin anyone?
<ijchain> <stevel> real programmers use "cat"
<ijchain> <stever> I used edlin!
<ijchain> <rmax> pico
<ijchain> <stevel> copy con:
<patthoyts> copy CON:
<ijchain> <aku> We absolutely have to create a composite of audio, video of the tlak and the chat ... :P
<patthoyts> heh
<ijchain> <schlenk> cat? not echo?
<ijchain> <dkf> I can remember edlin
<patthoyts> I remmber edlin - scary
<ijchain> <torsten> tar is the true (compressing editor)
<ijchain> <dkf> I can remember writing code with edlin :)
<ijchain> <dkf> Made moving to /bin/ed rather easy
<gongoputch> will there be video?
<ijchain> <dkf> No
<patthoyts> Not so far.
<ijchain> <dkf> nobody's got a suitable camera
<gongoputch> damn
<ijchain> <torsten> that's us! Jeff mentioned the chat!
<gongoputch> slide timing ....
<patthoyts> crikey - a target date
<ijchain> <miguel> spring? that is now :)
<patthoyts> (ewww)
<ijchain> <miguel> subversive
<ijchain> <stevel> clap clap clap
<ijchain> <miguel> bignums: hurrah for kevin and don!
<ijchain> <torsten> bignums! Great!
<ijchain> <gwlester> kbk, your turn to blush
<patthoyts> The Conservative Language
<ijchain> <torsten> ;-)
<patthoyts> No
<patthoyts> :)
<ijchain> <torsten> give him |_P
<ijchain> <torsten> Tile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
<ijchain> <aku> clap clap joe
<gongoputch> scintilla IS nice.
<ijchain> <torsten> I have to look at it soon
<patthoyts> It is.
<patthoyts> We use it in a product for editing visual basic script :}
<gongoputch> simple, I like simple
<patthoyts> Was very easy to add to a Windows C++ application.
<ijchain> <torsten> canvas rules!
<gongoputch> I am using it in SciTE, there is a freebsd port ..
<ijchain> <torsten> stream is dead!
<ijchain> <aku> stream lost
<ijchain> <stever> yep
<patthoyts> :(
<ijchain> <willdye> Lost here as well.
<gongoputch> here too
<patthoyts> boo hoo
<ijchain> <wcf3> bummer...
<ijchain> <stever> they lost their internet
<ijchain> <torsten> oh no!
<ijchain> <aku> Seems to be so ... all going away
<ijchain> <LucMove> panic!
<ijchain> <aku> Don't panic!
<ijchain> <aku> :)
<ijchain> <torsten> woah ...
<ijchain> <miguel> Tcl_Panic() instead
<ijchain> <torsten> :-)
<ijchain> <willdye> It went down about 30 seconds after I joined, so it must be my fault.
<ijchain> <seg> My fault!
<ijchain> <aku> :P
<gongoputch> remember the old 'Double Panic' unix console message?
<patthoyts> I guess I can put the kettle on then
<ijchain> <torsten> fire this hotel manager!
<ijchain> <stever> where are the redundant links? :)
<ijchain> <miguel> lonesome in BA :(
<ijchain> <aku> you don't want the audio stream via dial-up
<ijchain> <miguel> cat food | cat
<ijchain> <seg> If we charge remote attendees next year, in exchange for promises of good service, it might be worthwhile to hire a transcriptionist -- like the close-captioning for newscasts. If the audio goes down, at least remote folks can see a slideshow and captions (sent through an alternate, hopefully more reliable feed than the high-bandwidth audio/video stream).
<ijchain> <aku> ok, the networks seems to be getting better ...
<ijchain> <LucMove> I wonder if whoever was recording lost the audio too
<ijchain> <torsten> hope it gets recorded in the conference room
<ijchain> <stever> yep, it is
<ijchain> <torsten> puhhh
<ijchain> <willdye> Hmm. A transcription + slideshow feed would also be good for those on low-bandwidth lines, and those with no audio.
<ijchain> <torsten> yeah, SMS feed
<ijchain> <stever> willdye: the slide show would be low bandwidth
<ijchain> <stever> if theres a need for low bandwidht, we can do ogg encapsulated speex
<ijchain> <stever> on a spearate feed
<ijchain> <stevel> why not a video feed - then we could have an empty room with no speaker
<azbridge> *** davel entered
<ijchain> <willdye> stever: Yes, the idea is to have a high-bandwidth feed of streaming audio & maybe video, but also have a separate, low-bandwidth feed that just shows occasional slides and text from the transcriptionist (hired for the conference).
<ijchain> <willdye> The low-bandwidth feed is for low-bandwidth users, but also serves as a backup in case the stream goes down.
<ijchain> <stever> yep
<ijchain> <willdye> Of course, the transcribed text should also be fed to the high-band viewers.
<ijchain> <torsten> rmax, where's the stream gone
<ijchain> <aku> yes
<ijchain> <rmax> network problems over here
<ijchain> <stevel> I had to re-authenticate
<ijchain> <torsten> we were all panicing here, collapsing
<ijchain> <Damon> Tell Jeff to hang on.
<ijchain> <Damon> 0-]
<ijchain> <aku> transcription - via Speech recognition ...
<ijchain> <Damon> Just kidding.
<ijchain> <torsten> stream is back!
<ijchain> <rmax> sorry, even my chat connection went down, so I couldn't see it.
<ijchain> <rmax> Streams should be back now.
<ijchain> <schelte> Yep
<ijchain> <LucMove> yes
<ijchain> <aku> yes ...
<ijchain> <LucMove> cheers
<ijchain> <aku> Although he is in the last pages ...
<ijchain> <Damon> Including stream.tclers.tk?
<patthoyts> thank you rmax
<patthoyts> Yes - tclers too
<ijchain> <Damon> I'm still not getting through.
<ijchain> <willdye> rmax : Your efforts are still appreciated, success or not. :-) Just the test has convinced me that we should seriously consider "official" support of remote attendance in future years.
<ijchain> <LucMove> hotels and flights are so last century...
<patthoyts> hey Jeff - back up 5 mins or so
<patthoyts> :D
<cleverly> "regarding tcl obj, what does hydra vs stork refer to?" (question from dave ___?)
<ijchain> <rmax> Damon: the servers are cascaded, and it usually takes somewhat longer for the European one to pick up the stream.
<ijchain> <aku> stork - 2 legs
<ijchain> <aku> hydra - multi-representations
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