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<EfentharWireless> back
<EfentharWireless> SteveWrightNZ, yup
<SteveWrightNZ> bewdy
<SteveWrightNZ> thx
<EfentharWireless> heh... im in the middle of setting gnome up on my new lappy
<EfentharWireless> gnome without a panel is hard work
<SteveWrightNZ> heh
<EfentharWireless> still better than CLI tho
<SteveWrightNZ> tho, vga=773 or better consoles are nice
<EfentharWireless> SteveWrightNZ, yea, but something is up with my consoles... it gives an invalid mode error for vga=791
<SteveWrightNZ> vga=scan ?
<EfentharWireless> i still get a high res console thanks to choosing it in kernel, but it is low color
<SteveWrightNZ> ahh
<SteveWrightNZ> odd
<SteveWrightNZ> try vga=ask
<EfentharWireless> SteveWrightNZ, im using vesafb-tng, how does one chaange the mode
<SteveWrightNZ> ahhh, not familiar with that sry
<SteveWrightNZ> dunno the tng bit
<EfentharWireless> thats the newest one
<EfentharWireless> that supports on-the-fly mode changes
<SteveWrightNZ> have to set on the kernel command line IIRC
<EfentharWireless> apparently not with tng
<SteveWrightNZ> ahh
<SteveWrightNZ> very cool
<EfentharWireless> and i need to somehow get DRM going with my CyberBlade XPAi... ive heard you can do it, but not how
<EfentharWireless> the mach64 in my old lappy was terrible
<EfentharWireless> furrywolf, lol... theyre no good for DRM... very hard to get working, the S3 Savage is much easier
<furrywolf> s3 IS TOTAL CRAP.
<furrywolf> really, awful, total crap
<furrywolf> with buggy drivers
<furrywolf> and buggy chipset
<furrywolf> and random hangs
<EfentharWireless> furrywolf, in your opinion, all my experiences with them have been fine
<EfentharWireless> no random hangs, no bugs
<furrywolf> and making xv work is a nightmare
<furrywolf> and making the cursor work in X is a pain (have to use software cursor; hardware is broken)
<EfentharWireless> but 60fps with DRM at full 1024x768 CRT res
<furrywolf> etc
<EfentharWireless> furrywolf, laptops use software cursor anyway
<furrywolf> heh
<furrywolf> my laptop uses a neomagic with 1mb of ram or so...
<EfentharWireless> lol
<EfentharWireless> my old one uses a Rage64 Mobility with 8Mb, the one before that had an S3 Savage IX with 8mb, this one has a Trident CyberBlade XPAi with 32M
<furrywolf> you have more money. :P
<EfentharWireless> no, i dont
<EfentharWireless> i know how to get bargains
<furrywolf> you got all three of those for less than $1?
<furrywolf> if not, you paid more. heh.
<EfentharWireless> this one and the last one cost >NZ$151
<furrywolf> I spent US$1 on mine.
<EfentharWireless> the S3 based one (Satellite Pro 4280) cost NZ$500
<EfentharWireless> furrywolf, i save up for em
<furrywolf> http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/laptop02.jpg
<furrywolf> looks like that. :)
<EfentharWireless> furrywolf, and use the money i get from them to buy the next one
<furrywolf> it's a tiny and little laptop. :)
<furrywolf> it looks bigger than it really is in that photo... http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/room01.jpg shows a good size comparrison. it's the one on the atx case on the left, while my non-working dell latitude is on the right. :)
<SteveWrightNZ> saving roolz
<furrywolf> saving only works if you have spare money to save.
<SteveWrightNZ> not so
<furrywolf> if you don't know how you're buying next day's food or paying next month's bills, there's no saving.
<SteveWrightNZ> no, thats a trap
<furrywolf> I save $10. that's 3 days I don't ear.
<furrywolf> eat
<SteveWrightNZ> you wont see beyond it until you are out of it
<furrywolf> I could do that, but I'm the type of wolfy that likes food.
<SteveWrightNZ> heh
<SteveWrightNZ> if you start saving, very quickly you have 400bux in the bank
<SteveWrightNZ> then suddenly, it will be a grand
<furrywolf> umm, at 3 days not eating per month, that would be 3 years.
<SteveWrightNZ> then, holy ****! 5 grand! how that get there?
<furrywolf> ok, obviously you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about.
<SteveWrightNZ> (10:29:12) SteveWrightNZ: you wont see beyond it until you are out of it
<SteveWrightNZ> actually, it is you who does not see
<SteveWrightNZ> I was the same
<furrywolf> <furrywolf> saving only works if you have spare money to save.
<furrywolf> I go further in debt every money. no ****ing way I can spare anything to save.
<SteveWrightNZ> we were utterly broke until we started to save
<furrywolf> if I were to skip 3 days of food, I could save $10 per month. but it wouldn't be saving, as I'd use it to become less past-due on bills, etc.
<furrywolf> I only barely got the electric paid after the 48 hour notice.
<furrywolf> car registration and insurance aren't paid
<SteveWrightNZ> your stress level must be exteme because of that
<furrywolf> if you really think everyone has money to save, you clearly have rich parents, a good job, or some other source of plentiful money.
<SteveWrightNZ> no, I have none of that, and I am a broke*** icrecream truck driver
<SteveWrightNZ> I just chose to think differently
<furrywolf> and are you able to pay your bills each month?
<SteveWrightNZ> absolutely
<furrywolf> then you obviously have a better paying job. I make less money than the bills.
<SteveWrightNZ> it isnt an issue with twenty G in the bank
<furrywolf> I haven't made 20 grand TOTAL in the last two years.
<SteveWrightNZ> no, I own my own business and I struggle like any small business
<SteveWrightNZ> made ? me neither
<furrywolf> made, GROSS. net has been rather negative.
<SteveWrightNZ> **** knows where it came from or how it got there..
<SteveWrightNZ> but I used to think the same as you
<furrywolf> my entire gross income for the last two years is less than what you have in your bank account. clearly you make more money.
<SteveWrightNZ> I had to change it, or lose my family
<furrywolf> are you just not listening or something? how do you propose I start saving money, especially money of any quantity, when the bills aren't getting paid?
<SteveWrightNZ> please dont be rude.. I sense your stress level.. understand - I came from the same place as you
<furrywolf> pg&e (electric) wants $300 or they're sending me another 48 hour notice. water hasn't been paid in 3 months. phone is sorta paid. car registration and insurance are both not paid.
<furrywolf> there is no way I can save a single cent other than skipping food, as I'm really pretty much not paying anything else.
<SteveWrightNZ> yes, you are in a trap
<SteveWrightNZ> it will be a fight to get out of that one
<furrywolf> and even if I didn't eat for a whole month I wouldn't be able to pay off half of a single back-due bill.
<SteveWrightNZ> but when you do get out, take care to not return there
<SteveWrightNZ> and you must get out, or the stress will eat you
<SteveWrightNZ> been there
<furrywolf> uh-huh. I'm far more stressed that someone on IRC refuses to listen than anything else. :P
<SteveWrightNZ> ahh, I'm sorry dood
<SteveWrightNZ> please understand I came from the same place as you
<furrywolf> obviously you were able to get a job that paid more than your monthly expenses
<SteveWrightNZ> no income, no savings, cant pay the biills
<furrywolf> this isn't true of everyone else.
<SteveWrightNZ> I have never had a job
<furrywolf> a job includes your own business
<SteveWrightNZ> oh, ok
<SteveWrightNZ> do you have some line of work ?
<furrywolf> no, got fired from my last job, which wasn't paying the bills anyway.
<SteveWrightNZ> damn
<furrywolf> directv installed == not a good job.
<furrywolf> pay is about half minimum wage if you're lucky.
<SteveWrightNZ> ah well, good riddance to it then
<furrywolf> often times you lose money
<furrywolf> s/installed/installer
<SteveWrightNZ> snort
<furrywolf> I got fired when my boss gave me a list of installs to do, and a quick bit of math showed that just the gas and hotels would add up to more than he wanted to pay me, never mind parts, equipment, tool/car maintenance, etc. told him he could go do them himself...
<SteveWrightNZ> lol
<SteveWrightNZ> good on ya
<furrywolf> plus I helped another employee sue him for illegal labor practices.
<furrywolf> he didn't like me after that.
<SteveWrightNZ> ****s who want **** for free really piss me off also
<SteveWrightNZ> lmao
<furrywolf> I live on the california coast. he wanted to send me to nevada for $300. $300 - gas - hotels - parts (diplexors, coax, connectors, etc) - tool and car maintenance - etc == about -$200.
<silentfury> haha
<silentfury> you helped another employee sue him for illegal labor practices
<SteveWrightNZ> yeah rite... $finger
<silentfury> ya, i can bet he didnt like you after that
<SteveWrightNZ> sup jd
<jdhutchin1> hi Stereo
<SteveWrightNZ> heh
<jdhutchin1> I mean SteveWrightNZ
<jdhutchin1> oops
<jdhutchin1> heh
<jdhutchin1> I need the mind-reading nick complete
<SteveWrightNZ> heh
<SteveWrightNZ> woah, I've got the rolled-oats munchies
<SteveWrightNZ> must.. have.. porridge.. now..
<furrywolf> heh
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