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<soaz> hi
<soaz> does anybody know, if there is a channel for the linux-wlan-ng driver, somewhere ?
<soaz> irc channel, of course.
<dragorn> not one dedicated to it
<dragorn> that i'm aware of
<soaz> well, can i ask a question about it here ? do you guys work with/use it ?
<SteveWrightNZ> ur always best to just ask ur question
<soaz> well then, does anyone use the 0.2.2 linux-wlan-ng driver ? since last week, when i reinstalled my "gateway" on the roof, with slackware 10.2/kernel 2.4.31/linux-wlan-ng 0.2.2 using a PCI prism 2.5 (fw 1.1.4) card, i'm experiencing pretty poor performance and troughput. the link quality dropped from 32/92 to 16/92 with the driver upgrade from 0.2.0 to 0.2.2 ... so did anyone have similar problems with the new driver ?
<dragorn> I don't think a driver upgrade could affect signal levels
<dragorn> unless it changed the interpretation of the firmware value and the signal level itself is the same.
<dragorn> Throughput, yes, a driver change could affect that
<dragorn> but not signal quality
<SteveWrightNZ> a different driver version could *report* signals at a different level, leading to various human-related issues
<soaz> i was using the 0.2.0 driver with slackware 10.1/kernel 2.4.29 .. didn't try it with the latest installation yet. planing it to do this weekend if it won't get better ... there is a chance, that the AP, which i'm connecting to might be overloaded. but i don't think this would be the case for the whole week when the new driver was running. i have to talk to the ISP guys about that.
<SteveWrightNZ> *reported* signal levels are nothing to do with actual signal levels
<SteveWrightNZ> they are simply an indicator
<SteveWrightNZ> viz, the speedometer in a motor vehicle
<SteveWrightNZ> but much less accurate
<soaz> the new linux-wlan-ng driver comes with some binary files (these were not in the previous version), firmware probably, which are being loaded with the kernel module.
<soaz> correction: the files are not binary, but mostly filled with hexadecimal strings.
<J4k3> anyone know offhand if the 2100AP does client mode?
<J4k3> or am I about to unleash a can of worms on myself?
<SteveWrightNZ> J4k3: dlink ?
<J4k3> yes
<SteveWrightNZ> +atheros ?
<SteveWrightNZ> can of worms almost certinly.. its dlink, dood..
<J4k3> they're reasonably reliable if you don't stick them up high
<J4k3> they don't deal with a lot of random signal very well... the OS freaks out
<SteveWrightNZ> heh
<J4k3> vxworks = sux
<strike4ce> What is a good wireless manager to use for kubuntu?
<curious> btw. i had two dwl700AP's
<curious> not so long ago someone hacked them and flashed their FW... or they broke down by themselves...
<curious> they behaved strange anyway, like hangs from time to time
<curious> and somehow i doubt i have zillion of hackers who hacked two units almost in same time (both with different p***wds)
<a65> hello, so who's been successful with implementing a NISP ?
<SteveWrightNZ> wots a NISP ?
<a65> Neighbor Internet Service Provider ;)
<SteveWrightNZ> heh
<SteveWrightNZ> just put up an AP with some auth
<a65> so that's your success story? "put up an AP with some auth"
<SteveWrightNZ> yep
<SteveWrightNZ> run a Linux box
<SteveWrightNZ> setup a domain name
<SteveWrightNZ> get a static IP
<SteveWrightNZ> configure some webmail
<SteveWrightNZ> pop3
<SteveWrightNZ> put an external antenna on ur AP
<a65> which ap are you running?
<SteveWrightNZ> homemade
<a65> u're using m00nwall or something similair?
<SteveWrightNZ> hostap
<a65> do you run ur own DNS as well?
<SteveWrightNZ> yes
<SteveWrightNZ> caching named
<SteveWrightNZ> most distros have all this installed by default
<a65> im on bsd, i was trying to setup a dns server. but i guess i should be doing a caching named
<SteveWrightNZ> caching helps a lot
<a65> yeah i should look into it. i've always ignored it when i came across it. no wonder i'm not getting any progress done.
<SteveWrightNZ> not having it wont kill ur NISP
<SteveWrightNZ> I strongly recommend not building from scratch, unless that is *why* you want to do it
<Amun> im trying to install ndiswrapper, but its telling me i need the kernel sources installed. the problem is, im using 'auditor' the livecd distro. and it doesnt have the kernel sources installed, and i cant find the knoppix kernel sources. i went to kernel.org, and downloaded and recompiling 2.6.11 kernel. will this by any chance fix my problem with the kernel sources ?
<SteveWrightNZ> unlikely
<SteveWrightNZ> auditor doesnt have ndiswrapper ?
<a65> sp SteveWrightNZ . in ur domain registar.. what do you have as your NS ? for example if u were to register with mydomain.com your NS would be ns1.mydomain.com,etc... now if u're running a caching dns, wat would ur ns be in this case?
<SteveWrightNZ> you should not be your own NS
<SteveWrightNZ> see if they can be ur NS
<SteveWrightNZ> and just point them at ur static
<Amun> SteveWrightNZ: apparently not. i looked all over the distro for it, and found nothing of ndiswrapper. where can i download knoppix kernel source from? the mirrors list a 600meg file called 'knoppix', and thats it.
<SteveWrightNZ> Amun: I would say you are skrewed
<Amun> aww crap
<SteveWrightNZ> unless you use standard knoppix - has ndiswrapper IIRC
<Amun> thats not fun
<SteveWrightNZ> yeah 8-/
<Amun> !!!!!
<SteveWrightNZ> I think
<Amun> knoppix has ndiswrapper ? is there a way to install ndiswrapper from a cdrom. knoppix locks the cdrom drive ;(
<Amun> or install knoppix to the harddisk ?
<SteveWrightNZ> not IIRC
<SteveWrightNZ> install, yes
<SteveWrightNZ> or just use standard knoppix - ndiswrapper works live IIRC
<Amun> what is IIRC ?
<Amun> iv never heard of IIRC knoppix
<SteveWrightNZ> "If I Remember Correctly"
<Amun> ahh
<loloster_> http://research.microsoft.com/netres/projects/virtualwifi/default.htm
<a65> ok thanks SteveWrightNZ , nice talking to you.
<SteveWrightNZ> likewise ;-)
<SteveWrightNZ> http://www.wagoneers.com/pages/RocketCar/rockit.html <- LMAO
<J4k3> Intel 2200bg vs Broadcom 11g, steel cage deathmatch
<J4k3> AP: DWL-2100AP w/ "5.5dbi" antenna outside the window attached to AC unit for backplane
<SteveWrightNZ> more like "fistfight of the retards" ?
<J4k3> yeah, pretty much
<J4k3> haha
<pindonga> hi. I am trying to gather some information about setting up a linux access point.
<pindonga> So far I have read that it depends on the wireless card being used. Does anyone know if I can make a linux AP with a Linksys WMP11 v4?
<EO_> wheeee
<DrDT> pindonga: depends on what chipset it is
<DrDT> EO_ : having fun?
<pindonga> DrDT: I am currently running it with the ndiswrapper drivers... I don't know if this can help you out?
<jdhutchin1> you can't do it with ndiswrapper
<jdhutchin1> look and see what chipset it has, if it has a prism2 or atheros chipset, you can do it
<jdhutchin1> otherwise, you can't
<pindonga> alright... who do I look up the chipset?
<DrDT> google :-)
<pindonga> ok.. in the case it doesnt have those chipsets.. what access point would you recommend me to use? (in a mixed linux/windows network)
<InfraRed> anyone here using nocatauth?
<dersteer> pindonga: I'm kinda fond of the wrt54g
<dersteer> works great for windows or linux clients
<pindonga> brand? linksys? dlink?
<dersteer> linksys
<pindonga> can I easily configure it to have a vpn on it, so that all wireless traffic p***ing through it must require to be part of that vpn? (for security measures)
<dersteer> yes
<pindonga> and (second newbie question) is this the recommended way to make a wireless network secure (as close as possible as to what a wired network security is)?
<SteveWrightNZ> bbl, work
<jdhutchin1> pindonga, use a vpn
<dtm> pindonga: or WPA or auto-rotating WEP keys
<pindonga> what would you recommend?
<dtm> pindonga: and when you say 'secure', do you mean "protected from unauthorized access" or do you mean "encrypted"
<pindonga> I mean 'protected from unauthorized access', and I mean 'nobody that hasn't authenticated can see anything inside the network and/or use the network'
<pindonga> I have found out the chipset my card has: it is an InProComm chipset, so I guess I am out of luck regarding using the card for an access point, right?
<J4k3> woah, what the ****
<J4k3> the noise level just went waaaay over -60
<J4k3> somebody's about to get their evening ****ed up
<DrDT> competitor's a few miles from your house with a 24dbi?
<EO_> wheee home!
<variable> and a 1w amp
<DrDT> or a canopy? ;-)
<J4k3> I know the answer for canopy systems ;)
<bucky> !seen l0ki
<WifiFred> l0ki was last seen in #hwug 9 days, 7 hours, 9 minutes and 55 seconds ago saying: call her dani for short
<DrDT> yes, I know, a "wireless" small-projectile impact system
<J4k3> yeah
<EO_> typically called a gun?
<J4k3> oh no no
<J4k3> thats illegal!
<DrDT> EO: J4k3's in texas
<J4k3> I'm watching the atheros-reported signal in StarOS
<J4k3> bounce from -68 to -94
<J4k3> on a client that should be getting a -65ish
<EO_> hrm
<variable> water in the lines?
<EO_> oh, I know! Space GigE port!
<EO_> woot!
<J4k3> variable: shouldn't be
<J4k3> no rain in over a week
<variable> humm
<variable> swaying in the wind?
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