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<J4k3> !range
<WifiFred> specify: <frequency> <xmit power in dBm> <ant gain in dBi> <starting mile> <ending mile> <rx antenna gain>
<variable> i am going to be getting some beautiful 32.5db 5.8 dishes for a 32mile(52km) link
<udtst> nice
<udtst> how much
<variable> ~$350 w/ radomes
<hjohnson> variable: got some of those..
<hjohnson> hook them up to 400mW cards, and you can annoy geosync satellites. :P
<variable> lol, thats what im doing, just not the geosync part
<variable> i am gonna be running sr5, but theyll be at 21dbm for 54mbps(hopefully)
<variable> that why i might get a full ~23mbps
<variable> of real speed
<J4k3> hmm
<J4k3> I'm missing
<J4k3> 10 db of signal
<J4k3> somewhere
<J4k3> both directions, noise issues ***ide
<SteveWrightNZ> chillout is maxxing out
<SteveWrightNZ> woah thats weird
<SteveWrightNZ> lol
<J4k3> my fixed SR2's will arrive monday
<SteveWrightNZ> crimped is ok
<J4k3> yeah they're crimped, but...
<SteveWrightNZ> I know wot ur sayin
<J4k3> solder should technically be better, unless you fry the coax
<SteveWrightNZ> not so
<SteveWrightNZ> solder doesnt last
<J4k3> solder should last a fairly long time
<J4k3> when not exposed to the elements
<SteveWrightNZ> true
<J4k3> and if your coax is getting water in it, well ;)
<J4k3> but solder sure doesn't appreciate abuse (repetitive movement, etc)
<J4k3> I went out to the 'test spot' about 7 miles north.. same signal loss there
<J4k3> and its right dead in the focus of the slotted side.
<J4k3> ahhh if I just had access to good RF test gear
<J4k3> I'd build myself an 8 or 16 notch filter
<SteveWrightNZ> much cheaper to buy good plugs and crimpers
<J4k3> yeah
<J4k3> I'm using one of those crappy thin-as-**** grey ufl->N-F pigtail
<variable> ufl ****s
<J4k3> yeah
<J4k3> the mmcx's on mine
<J4k3> are 'broken'
<J4k3> well
<J4k3> the new ones that are showing up monday won't be.
<variable> oh that ****s
<SteveWrightNZ> many of those pigtail connectors should only be used once
<variable> well at least you dont have to wait long
<SteveWrightNZ> connect it and dont futz with it
<SteveWrightNZ> lest ye **** it
<variable> lol
<SteveWrightNZ> but its trooooo
<J4k3> yeah
<J4k3> I've noticed most u.fl's are total ****
<J4k3> one use and you're putting them back together with hemostats to get them to clip onto the next card
<J4k3> with that same positive 'click' the first time ha.
<J4k3> er had
<SteveWrightNZ> yeh
<SteveWrightNZ> rewted
<variable> aye
<J4k3> and thats probably enough deformation to the connector to knock it out
<variable> u guys using straight up ip, or pppoe?
<J4k3> I use pppoe for customer connections
<J4k3> SteveWrightNZ: you seen the specs for the new madwifi?
<SteveWrightNZ> noo ?
<SteveWrightNZ> url ?
<J4k3> oh ****, it'll jump through hoops
<SteveWrightNZ> yum
<J4k3> ah, its in the readme file and I have no idea where it is online
<SteveWrightNZ> wots the most cool about it ?
<J4k3> virtualAP support, and driver-based bridging between real cards and/or virtual APs
<SteveWrightNZ> ahh ooh
<J4k3> the bridging support can do just about anything you can dream of
<SteveWrightNZ> so ppl can have their own "AP"
<J4k3> with the idea of 2.4 APs -> 5.8 backhauls in mind
<variable> sweet, now mt just needs it
<J4k3> yeah
<J4k3> MT and *OS use their own 'drivers'
<J4k3> that are licensed from Atheros
<variable> that ****s
<J4k3> but as far as I can tell
<J4k3> it doesn't have narrow carrier support yet
<variable> maybe theyll incorporate it in a future version
<SteveWrightNZ> anyone using Trango ?
<J4k3> http://www.intrastar.net/~jsuter/users-guide.pdf
<variable> na, costs to much
<J4k3> you'll notice iwpriv has like 50 new options
<SteveWrightNZ> Trango not toooo bad
<SteveWrightNZ> and it looks fast
<variable> orthogon looks fast
<variable> only trango i ever almost bought was tlink 10, but it only does 10mbps, so i went mt and never looked back
<SteveWrightNZ> how fast mt ?
<J4k3> as far as I can tell, nstreme should be able to do anything ortogon does
<J4k3> polling + ofdm on 5.8
<variable> fastest nstreme is 70mbps hdx, orthogon max is 279mbps fdx
<SteveWrightNZ> fark
<SteveWrightNZ> pricey tho ?
<J4k3> variable: afaik you can bond more nstreme channels.
<SteveWrightNZ> that gets expensive tho
<SteveWrightNZ> more client gear
<SteveWrightNZ> wots 802.11h ?
<variable> oh ya, orthogon is expensive for the 300bmps version it is 15k$
<SteveWrightNZ> snort
<tfitzgerald> who
<variable> on the mt forums i asked, nobody ever got more than 73tcp hdx, 86 udb hdx
<variable> you can only bond 2 cards to make a full duplex system
<variable> j4k3 - hows pppoe working?
<J4k3> quite well
<J4k3> nobody complains about it since my CPE boxes themselves are also integral client routers.
<variable> oh ya, whats the cpe?
<tfitzgerald> hmm seems to me that commecial hardware still ****s
<darkera> hey all
<J4k3> variable: OpenWRT-compat box with a CM9 in the MiniPCI slot.
<J4k3> wow... this noise ****s
<J4k3> or whatever it is
<J4k3> every 10 seconds or so
<J4k3> the latency goes nuts
<J4k3> then back to normal
<SteveWrightNZ> what type of test ?
<J4k3> ping
<WifiFred> pong
<SteveWrightNZ> wing
<WifiFred> wong
<SteveWrightNZ> fing
<WifiFred> fong
<variable> ding
<WifiFred> dong
<J4k3> ying
<WifiFred> yong
<SteveWrightNZ> small things..
<variable> lol
<J4k3> but this is just strange
<SteveWrightNZ> heheheh
<variable> bing
<WifiFred> bong
<SteveWrightNZ> bling
<SteveWrightNZ> got 'im
<variable> lol
<J4k3> oh, and I end up with a bunch of dup icmp returns
<SteveWrightNZ> heheh
<variable> j4k3 is your main server mt?
<darkera> I have a question about frame-injection whenever you guys are done :o)
<ulf_k> whats going on here,
<J4k3> my AP is *OS
<J4k3> hmm
<SteveWrightNZ> we're never done ;-)
<SteveWrightNZ> we goof-off all day and all night
<darkera> HEH no doub
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