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<variable> 100ft to 150
<hjohnson> EO_: we're running 15km, on 24dbi grids, at 2.4 ghz, with huge link margins
<hjohnson> and 11mbit
<EO_> hjohnson : what about snow and rain and stuff?
<variable> 15km is only like 9 miles though, not that far
<websae> hjohnson: what type of Radio Chip do you have in your WRAP?
<variable> and at 54 you are talking -74 for receive
<variable> sensitivity
<hjohnson> EO_: our margins are so high that it's not affected anything
<EO_> variable : yea, I don't trust those figures tho. a packet gets lost here and there, and there goes your speed.
<hjohnson> websae: we run an atheros and a prism 2.5
<EO_> hjohnson : wow. nice. how much power into each dish?
<hjohnson> websae: we were running 2 400mW atheros cards, but the power supply on the wrap can't supply both cards with enough juice, so we were getting excessive reboots.
<hjohnson> EO_: 200mW
<hjohnson> one end through 40' of LMR-400 too
<websae> hrm okay
<EO_> hjohnson : oh man! so using 2*SR2 in a WRAP = THE ****? Which model of WRAP do you have?
<websae> which WRAP do you have?
<hjohnson> EO_: the one with two miniPCI slots
<hjohnson> one on top and one on the bottom
<EO_> hjohnson : 2C or 1E?
<EO_> OH!
<EO_> so you have the OLD one :)
<EO_> phew!
<hjohnson> it's DC to DC converter simply can't push enough power to drive the two 400mW cards
<EO_> hjohnson : how much V you feeding in?
<variable> but websae, like i said, longer links at 2.4 at11mbps is alot different then 5.8 at 54mbps
<EfentharWireless> EO_, all you need to do is byp*** the supply
<hjohnson> EO_: plus, you'll have huge crosstalk problems if you're running both cards in the same frequency band
<websae> so you need two WRAPs...
<hjohnson> EO_: 18VDC or something
<EO_> hjohnson : nah, I'll be mixing 2.4 and 5.8
<hjohnson> our mountaintop repeater runs a Soerkis Net4801
<hjohnson> since we wanted the extra RS232, the USB, and the 3 ethernet jacks
<EO_> ah so no noise
<EO_> we have noise in this urban setting
<hjohnson> yeah, our noisefloor is very low, except for the mainland-island link
<EO_> anyways, gotta run. work's over and I have a trip to prepare for tomorrow! :)
<hjohnson> our 24dbi antenna is pointing at a built up area
<EO_> cya *!
<variable> cya
<hjohnson> the amusing thing is that we can occasionally pick up other accesspoints on the mainland
<J4k3> hehe
<J4k3> I've waved my 19dbi grid around in houston
<J4k3> and Austin
<J4k3> and been FLAT OUT AMAZED how far you can hear things
<J4k3> even crap with a garbage antenna
<J4k3> also up on hills outside of austin
<SteveWrightNZ> woah, banana fritter with icecream, lemon juice, and icing sugar
<J4k3> netstumbler (so obviously bidirectional) bouncing off APs 15-18 miles away sitting on top of 50+ story buildings.
<J4k3> but those were APs with decent antennas... no "defaults" and "linksys" floating in that :)
<hjohnson> heh
<variable> sweet deal steve
<websae> what's a good site to buy WRAPs???anyone?
<variable> send some this way
<hjohnson> but then again, your drinking age is absurdly high
<variable> doesnt matter, not like noone drinks
<hjohnson> variable: yeah, but having a pub on campus is fun...
<hjohnson> you wouldn't believe how many times we'd take the prof out for beers after final exams...
<hjohnson> a "no hard feelings" thing
<variable> thats cool
<hjohnson> sitting there, with the box of completed exams under the table
<variable> i need to go to another country for a bit anyways, feeling stifled here
<hjohnson> come to Canada. :)
<hjohnson> we're a friendly bunch
<variable> ya, and i dont even need a p***port
<variable> cause i dont have one yet
<websae> does teh wrap 2lan/2pci come with power supply?
<variable> your links your talking about are on vancouver island right?
<deadcat> whats open system and shared key? what do they mean?
<websae> EO--how big of a flash card will I need for my WRAP--and what port FreeBSD should I use??
<EO_> wheeeeeeeeeeeee home!
<EO_> variable : that's funny. I'm going to the USA this weekend :)
<EO_> ie: tomorrow + saturday
<variable> oh ya, for what?
<variable> where to
<variable> ?
<EO_> Friend bought a car...on eBay!
<EO_> So I'm driving him down to pick it up =)
<EO_> To Chicago
<variable> thats cool, thats where im at
<variable> from canada i take it?
<EO_> ya
<variable> cool
<EO_> Google says 14 hrs of driving
<EO_> so, realistically, hopefully 12.
<variable> aye, you should be able to cruise pretty fast
<EO_> variable : wanna show me the house where they filmed MArried With Children? :)
<EfentharWireless> if google says 14hrs, Id do it in 9
<variable> that was in chicago?
<EfentharWireless> lol
<EO_> oh geeze :P
<EO_> not a very good chicagonian!
<variable> guess not, that shows pretty old isnt it?
<EO_> And remember the big fountain from the opening scene?
<EO_> That's in Chicago too. Called the Buckingham fountain I think
<variable> ya, i know that
<variable> that things pretty cool
<variable> very big
<EO_> Does Chicago have lots of free access APs? :)
<variable> depends on if you consider residential networks free aps :)
<EO_> <checks his morals carefully>
<EO_> Yes, I do!
<variable> then yes
<EO_> awesome
<EO_> I think we'll be arriving tomorrow evening
<EO_> in the wifimobile
<EfentharWireless> lol
<variable> lol
<SteveWrightNZ> whee!
<variable> not that i am tired of us, just the city, i dont like living in cities, i am a country guy
<EO_> variable : what else is there to see in Chicago?
<variable> lots of museums
<variable> tall buildings
<EO_> I was looking @ downtown via google satellite. My god is it packed!
<variable> lake
<variable> ya, alot of people, thats for sure
<EO_> what's the population?
<variable> i think its 3+ mill city, 9 mil metro
<EO_> niiiice
<EfentharWireless> my city is enourmous, but not packed i
<EfentharWireless> n
<EO_> EfentharWireless : what ****ty would that be?
<EfentharWireless> err... Auckland New Zealand
<EfentharWireless> 1.5mill ppl
<EO_> ahh
<variable> akl international airport
<EO_> Is everyone sick of LOTR there yet?
<variable> i was just looking at flying into auckland, costs 2k usd for roundtrip from here
<EfentharWireless> EO_, i dont know what you mean
<EO_> EfentharWireless : be thankful.
<EfentharWireless> EO_, I think LOTR shows a good view of NZ
<EO_> EfentharWireless : I am the farthest thing from a fan.
<EO_> The films should be burned and their ashes burried.
<SteveWrightNZ> more like a propellor ? 8-o
<variable> nice
<J4k3> hahaha steve
<EO_> variable : are we gonna get mugged/killed if we venture into any parts of Chicago?
<EfentharWireless> EO_, and why would that be?
<variable> ya, the southside, where i currently am, lol
<SteveWrightNZ> EO_: and variable, jut don hold hands
<SteveWrightNZ> t
<EO_> SteveWrightNZ : what's it to you if we do? :P
<variable> i suppose, why was there news of that recently?
<SteveWrightNZ> well, *I* dont mind
<EO_> variable : murders? not that I know of. But every city has its seedy areas.
<variable> sure i dont either, as long as its with your child or girlfriend ;)
<variable> but anywho
<variable> ya, like i say, south is bad
<EO_> Now. Where the heck did I stick my GPS.


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