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<variable> so that software you have checks each packet going through againt the db for bandwidth limits?
<jnorell> no, we have a script that runs (every 15min, I think) that pulls config from the database and reconfigures the bandwidth limitter
<jnorell> it's not real-time like mail
<jnorell> but not neccessary to be, either
<jnorell> (nor would email, for that matter...)
<variable> ya, thats what i am trying to figure out how to do on mikrotik
<variable> how much did that software you have cost?
<jnorell> I think $700 or $800ish, with yearly $100 renewal if you want to keep getting latest features/versions
<jnorell> but the configuration scripts are all custom .. it would probably take about the same amount of work to get them to work in mikrotik or anything else
<jnorell> (provided mikrotik gives you something like perl with libdbi)
<SteveWrightNZ> theres a guy selling 10mbit trango CPEs here for under NZ$500 (330ish us)
<SteveWrightNZ> this is cheaper than an old CB3 in a box with a grid antenna
<variable> steve: cool
<variable> jnorrel: na no good scripting in mt it looks like
<SteveWrightNZ> but I am wondering about the suitability of them
<SteveWrightNZ> looks like a shared 10mbit channel
<SteveWrightNZ> which isnt much
<SteveWrightNZ> the thing with is, they are dead simple to use
<TuxMeister> hey guys.. i just installed debian on an acer laptop and i ndiswrapped the drivers for the integrated wifi card...
<TuxMeister> lspci gets this: 0000:06:05.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
<TuxMeister> how do i load wlan0 to controll it with iwconfig?
<j3m1b> anybody familiar with nocat source?
<udtst> question, anyone know a page that has wrt54g firmware? Sveasoft only goes up to version 3 and I have a version 4
<silentfury> wrt54g.thermoman.de
<udtst> thats pretty much the same. it only works up to version 3
<udtst> and they say it might not even work on 3
<hjohnson> udtst: problem is that the v 4 might not be supported.
<udtst> humm
<udtst> my brother bricked one for good then heh
<WaV> leaving boot_wait on saved my router
<WaV> like
<WaV> after 3 months
<WaV> i couldnt access the gui and the dhcp server stopped working
<WaV> but i used linksys automatic firmware upgrade tool
<WaV> and it worked awesomely
<WaV> and was able to add dd-wrt back to the router
<WaV> =)
<hjohnson> er Discovery Channel
<jdhutchin1> heh
<hjohnson> they filmed me clambering all over the Humvee, working on it... most of it with my legs hanging out from under the vehicle
<SteveWrightNZ> ur *** is on TV ay 8-)
<SteveWrightNZ> ok, worktime
<SteveWrightNZ> bbl
<jdhutchin1> some people get paid a lot to put their *** on tv
<jdhutchin1> maybe you're on the path down that road
<cryptnix> Anyone around?
<cryptnix> I got a small story I'd like to share and I'd just like someone to nit pick it
<cryptnix> Say I have an ISP using some 900mhz wireless ... and i got a customer thats 9 miles away. Could that customer @ 9 miles away cause issues with a tower? Or could the actual height of the tower be its own issue for such crappy performance?
<J4k3> depends on variables...
<cryptnix> but is it possible?
<J4k3> sketchy quality clients on non-polling style networks will cause performance issues (since they can't easily be told to stfu and let working traffic p***)
<J4k3> and yeah, the higher you are the more interference you're going to be able to receive.
<J4k3> and 900 goes forever it seems
<cryptnix> ah, wave rider? familiar
<cryptnix> ?
<J4k3> heard of them, haven't looked over their technology
<cryptnix> well waverider does use a polling type fasion
<J4k3> hmm, then it shouldn't greatly affect things unless maybe the ack timing isn't set right.
<J4k3> does the equipment report signal/noise?
<cryptnix> i couldn't tell ya
<cryptnix> other then half the times it has an outstanding reading
<cryptnix> well more then half
<cryptnix> i can't log into it anymore ... i used to work for an isp that gives the serivce to one of my buddies and the readings he was recieving was insane
<cryptnix> *service
<cryptnix> insane meaning good for the conditions he was in
<J4k3> yeah
<cryptnix> button_: he gets high pings and peak hours
<cryptnix> err i hate my script ... windows blows
<cryptnix> *but
<cryptnix> and = at
<cryptnix> So with a polling type setup man its kind of impossible to "hose" it
<cryptnix> ?
<cryptnix> sorry if i'm being ignorant
<J4k3> high pings at peak hours says its pretty busy to me.
<J4k3> 900mhz gear has a lot less effective bandwidth than microwave equipment
<J4k3> but yeah, with polling it *shouldn't* have latency problems til its simply maxed out
<Pablo_C> m00
<phych0> hey guys, anyone know of any good audit(wardriving) distro? i posted one in here the other day but lost the link!
<phych0> nm found it =)
<variable_> is anyone here using mikrotik, but not with pppoe ?
<Eggplant> variable, at times
<variable_> do you have any way to send commands to mikrotik through an automated system?
<Eggplant> variable, telnet scripts, but its a kludge
<variable_> eggplant: so like you have php or whatever telnet into mikrotik to issue commands?
<variable_> because thats waht i have now
<variable_> know of anything betteR?
<Eggplant> no, i use a program lang call euphoria
<variable_> ah, but same idea as my php method right>
<variable_> ?
<Eggplant> yup
<variable_> whats different/nice about euphoria?
<Eggplant> i wish there was shell access to MT, or a easy way to add your own apps, there might be, have not looked that deep under its hood
<Eggplant> well, eu is cross platform, and more of a full lang then php is
<variable_> i have been looking for a way to for a while now, and havent found anything
<variable_> what kindof telnet scripts you have for mt>?
<Eggplant> very old and out of date ones ,lol
<Eggplant> namely it was for adding bandwidth scripts for ips
<variable_> yep, same here
<Eggplant> seams to be a comming issue then
<Eggplant> id be happy with some http access to mt scripts and core commands
<variable_> well if theres two of us needing it, others must too, mt should help us out
<Eggplant> that woudl at least let people write a decent web interface
<Eggplant> been there done that, got a tshirt
<variable_> ya
<variable_> i know
<variable_> a tshirt? for what?
<Eggplant> I asked what it would take (even paying for) access to build my own packages for mt, never got a responce
<variable_> ya, i emailed them about that too
<variable_> mt doesnt really listen to their customers
<variable_> kindof pisses me off
<variable_> but the software is so damn good
<variable_> so i keep using it
<Eggplant> same with starOS, people have asked for more, got little
<Eggplant> lol, i know what you mean
<Eggplant> im sooo wanting narrow channels on MT
<variable_> oh ya, thats be sweet
<variable_> i was reading on their forums
<variable_> they said the next release will have it
<variable_> on the superchannel package
<variable_> or whatever they call it
<Eggplant> did they mean the next ver (2.10 or 3.0, or the next sub release?)
<variable_> let me see if i can find it
<variable_> just a second
<variable_> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104&sid=cf8807dc0b803da8bad8de707bfd110a
<variable_> there thats the post
<Eggplant> and if they add support for the Ubiquiti 900mhz cards, oooh baby i get all bothered just thinking of it
<variable_> ya, too bad its same old 802.11
<variable_> but it is gonna be sweet
<variable_> i really wish mikrotik gave its scripting language more power
<variable_> if i could just put a single php script on there!
<Eggplant> what would you rather have for 900mhz?
<J4k3> woah
<Eggplant> staros with 5 and 10mhz channels gets decent bandwidth, should be able ot get the same with 5/10/20 at 900
<Eggplant> hello J4k3
<J4k3> 900 is noisy
<J4k3> as all nastyness.
<Eggplant> ya it is
<variable_> something better, but i was just complaining, dont mind the complaining
<hjohnson> all the cordless phones
<J4k3> get a scanner, get a well tuned 915 antenna, and start listening... its ugly ;)
<hjohnson> and garage door openers
<variable_> hope
<J4k3> hjohnson: same crap at 2.4 though
<Eggplant> J4k3, i found some 630-900's, thinking of snaging a pair
<J4k3> hjohnson: too bad 802.11 doesn't deal with it there either ;)
<J4k3> Eggplant: go for it... they're fun to play with
<J4k3> they're 10 year old hardware
<J4k3> and it shows, though.
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