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<Amatersu> If I used that attitude I'd be a crack and heroin addicted weed smoking little trollop somewhere
<Amatersu> half outta my mind and not caring one bit :P
<DamienBlade> it's attitudes like that which are ruining the online gaming community
<Happyclam> I'm like that now!
<Revoked> lol damien
<Amatersu> and life in general :/
<Windmill> lol bro, it's not gonna improve
<Amatersu> it happend in RAN
<Revoked> i havent ruined anyone's fun and pleasure in SRO
<Windmill> just face the cold hard facts
<Amatersu> 80% of the server were botting malayasians
<DamienBlade> says who?
<Amatersu> so the english speaking people started botting
<Revoked> ama
<Revoked> im not botting to gain an unfair advantage ingame
<Revoked> just to get ingame at all
<Amatersu> Wham, 85% of the server got banned.
<Amatersu> Same principle :P
<Solid_Tao> I wish I was an Oscar Meyer weiner
<Revoked> no
<Revoked> not the same
<Amatersu> you're botting to gain an advantage in logging in
<DamienBlade> you using your macro might have got in ahead of someone doing it the old fashion way and clicking themselves
<Revoked> indeed i am
<Amatersu> either way you're using a program to gain an advantage.
<Revoked> but this does not affect gameplay itself in any way
<Amatersu> Yes it does
<Revoked> no
<Amatersu> Someone else can't play cause you're bein selfish :P
<Daloc> haha
<Revoked> no
<Amatersu> Though not as bad as the afkers
<Daloc> tonights topic is hilarious :p
<Amatersu> The afkers need to be skinned alive
<Revoked> im not sacrificing my gameplay time
<Revoked> for someone i dont know
<Amatersu> and dipped into boiling lemon juice.
<Solid_Tao> If I play the game more, then aren't I using a program to gain an advantage?
<Revoked> i barely have gameplay time
<Revoked> and if i do
<Revoked> i wanna make sure
<Revoked> i get to play
<Windmill> haha
<DamienBlade> On a side note...
<Amatersu> so?
<Revoked> i have a fulltime job
<Windmill> "If you grind for a longer time than me, you're being selfish"
<Revoked> i get to play like 2 hours a day MAX
<Amatersu> what makes you different than the rest of us?
<DamienBlade> And Amatersu, you might like this thought
<Happyclam> so that makes you special?
<Amatersu> nah windmill in game it's setup that way
<Revoked> no it doesnt
<Revoked> but it gives me a reason to macro the loggin
<Happyclam> so then why should you get preferential treatment?
<Amatersu> Flawed reasoning.
<Revoked> because i choose to
<Revoked> and thats the choice for everyone
<Happyclam> so then you do think you're special
<Revoked> no
<Amatersu> If I decide to be selfish about something at least I'll admit it.
<Revoked> i think if i can get an advantage
<Revoked> ill take it
<DamienBlade> If you NEED to play a game that much that you actually have to use a program that logs you in before everyone else because you can't do it yourself, you really have a problem and you need to get a personal life
<Happyclam> so if everyone was using a macro and spamming up the login and causing it to crash, how does that help?
<Revoked> doesnt
<Amatersu> I say he needs to just fall into a coma lol
<Revoked> but heck i dont care
<Revoked> it hasnt happened
<Windmill> this is like 4 on 1
<Amatersu> er..
<Windmill> go go revoked
<Windmill> ^_^b
<Amatersu> what do you think causes server crashes?
<DamienBlade> who says it hasn't happened
<Revoked> the login spam does not affect gameplay at all
<Amatersu> servers are linked.
<Revoked> amater
<Revoked> bugs
<Amatersu> mm hmm.
<Revoked> login server and game server
<Revoked> are seperated
<Daloc> DamienBlade or you can use a program to log in while you do something better than senseless "must-connect-to-the-game" -action :x
<Revoked> indeed Daloc
<Amatersu> Well if it's setup anything like l2 was then crashing the login will affect the gameplay server
<Amatersu> as since its' not cost effective to have em on different racks.
<Windmill> amen daloc
<Revoked> i refuse to waste my time and get RSI just to get in game
<Revoked> id rather have it automated
<DamienBlade> who's to say that "Disconnected to the Server" error thing isn't just the server kicking us out because there's a million macros clicking the connect button at the same time when you'
<Revoked> damien
<Amatersu> Pretty much thats what I think it is
<Revoked> have u even studied the code of SRO?
<Amatersu> I click connect ONCE and get the disconnected msg
<Amatersu> used to take me 8 times before that happened
<Amatersu> too many people hammering login
<DamienBlade> Daloc, if you use the macro to connect while you're away, and you connect while you're away, your character is afk
<Amatersu> if too many hammer with macros NOBODY gets in.
<Daloc> nahh
<Revoked> amater
<Daloc> i check it every now and then
<Daloc> you should too if you use it ;)
<Revoked> the disconnect is caused by the drop of the TCP Connection
<Revoked> which gets established when you start the game
<Daloc> rofl who cares about some 10mins afk :P
<Revoked> that drop is caused by the server
<Solid_Tao> I think that I am the most specialest rabbit in the world
<Revoked> not by the hammering
<DamienBlade> an Revoked, alot of people talk about code and **** and that, but 99.9999% of the people who play this game are kids who can't tell the difference between C++ and a McDonalds menu
<Amatersu> uh huh
<Daloc> i only dislike those ppl who set up a shop while they sleep ;)
<Amatersu> not factoring in netlag
<Revoked> indeed damien'
<Amatersu> or packet sends and overworking the login server.
<Revoked> amater i suggest u read some stuff about how servers are made
<Revoked> the thing is
<DamienBlade> and you don't think for a second that a million requests to the login server would cause stress on the server
<Revoked> when its full
<Revoked> its full
<Amatersu> ah yeah..
<Revoked> damien
<Revoked> i do
<Amatersu> Sure kid I'll humor you.
<Revoked> but there arent a million players
<Revoked> and what if they added a new server?
<Daloc> rofl
<Revoked> that would go over the same damn bandwidth
<DamienBlade> oooo MCSE, I wanna go for that
<Daloc> you need some waiting number w/e in sro
<Beaver> holy **** i just faught a Giant White Tiger. with about 5 other people.
<Daloc> dunno the word :))
<Amatersu> no fair!
<Revoked> the servers are on the same line
<Revoked> so the bandwidth isnt the issue
<Amatersu> Daloc you mean a queue?
<Beaver> only got 1005 exp though :(
<Daloc> aye
<Daloc> that i do mean
<Daloc> :P
<DamienBlade> So with the login server being under so much stress, don't you believe that it might cause people to lose their connection to the login server?
<Amatersu> Yeah that'd be nice.
<Daloc> like in wow or some
<Revoked> damien
<Revoked> if youve studied the code
<Revoked> ud see its not like that
<Amatersu> It's not even bandwith that usually causes you to lose connection half the time
<DamienBlade> you can't get the server code
<Amatersu> It's the server protocol going 'fukit'
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