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<Redragon^> luma you around?
<bronaugh> Redragon^: he's gone now.
<Redragon^> k
<Redragon^> i got it resolved
<bronaugh> he had to go be a flake; yoga.
<Niteye> tcpdump by default does rev dns lookup for IP addresses, lets say it captures 36 packets from the same IP, will it try to resolve that IP 36 times or is there some sort of cache?
<Redb3ard> ugh
<Redb3ard> this ****s, i can point to the function in the utility that must be screwing up, but i have no clue how to fix it
<`Psycho> re
<`Psycho> How can i download a single file with ftp command? with 1 line? ftp -u user -p p*** -h host -file? remote file? i not found this command in manual any1 please help me ;)
<`Psycho> i have no wget
<BitlBee> if it's your box .. wget is usualy on the install cd's
<`Psycho> i know, bu i have no rom, and now i want to dload the rpm
<`Psycho> and lynx too
<`Psycho> BitlBee, commands r available to do that? with ftp command?
<Redb3ard> ftp isnt suited for that, consider installing wget eventually
<Niteye> can wget be used to grab files via both html and ftp?
<themaxxz> http and ftp yes
<Niteye> cool
<jhcristy> anywhere i can go for help with a linux issue really new to linux and so far i have to say it is a piece of crap
<themaxxz> jhcristy, what seems to be the problem?
<jhcristy> cant dual boot
<jhcristy> two linux os red hat and mandrake red hat wont give the option to boot mandrake
<themaxxz> did you configure it too?
<jhcristy> mounted it as /mandrake option exists at boot error if selected
<A_c_E> quick question, i've just done my first installation of slackware linux in a long time, and i've already forgotten the command to load the GUI
<Lumas> sup
<Lumas> hey Redragon^
<Lumafsck> cool Buffalo has wireless router AND repeater
<A_c_E> nevermind, it's startx...i tried it with a spcae, that's why it didn't work
<A_c_E> ;)
<goox> i just lost a game of chess
<bronaugh> excellent.
<bronaugh> hey Lumafsck
<Redragon^> lumas that mod_headers works
<Redragon^> use
<Redragon^> Header Add Pragma "no-cache"
<Lumafsck> hey bronaugh
<Lumafsck> i have something for you
<Lumafsck> Redragon^: nopers ; (
<Lumafsck> http://reviews.cnet.com/Netgear_WPN824_RangeMax/4507-3319_7-31312124.html?tag=sub
<Lumafsck> this might solve my coverage problem and make use of the 802.11g on my card
<Lumafsck> Redragon^: actually the executables couldn't be downloaded after that
<Lumafsck> "internal server error"
<Lumafsck> this : header add expires <Sun 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT>
<Lumafsck> or this: <file saSetup.exe> header add expires <Sun 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT></file>
<Lumafsck> didn't work
<Lumafsck> Red
<bronaugh> Atheros in that box.
<bronaugh> I dunno why netgear always makes such huge enclosures on their APs
<Lumafsck> holy crap it has an ids
<Lumafsck> bronaugh: my wireless nic is atheros based
<bronaugh> probably runs linux.
<Viking667> Lumafsck: oooookay. That's good?
<Lumafsck> which i actually haven't gotten worked since i went from centos 3 to centos 4 and 2.6 kern by the way
<Lumafsck> i dont' know if that's good , it has some closed source crap in the driver
<Lumafsck> so not good, atheros that is
<Lumafsck> but its what i have
<bronaugh> radio module is closed.
<bronaugh> which is evil
<Lumafsck> that is correct
<Lumafsck> bad
<Lumafsck> if i was motivated i would replace the wireless card.. but its internal
<Lumafsck> and i'm lazy
<bronaugh> heh, what would you switch to?
<Lumafsck> prolly cisco something
<Lumafsck> what do you think of the rangemax bronaugh
<bronaugh> prism54 would be best...
<bronaugh> I think it's expensive.
<bronaugh> I think it's also probably pretty good.
<bronaugh> but you can get 5 refurb APs for the price of that.
<Lumafsck> i'm buying it
<Lumafsck> i can't get a decent signal from down the hall with my linksys 802.11b crapola
<bronaugh> you could put one in each corner of your apartment, put them on different channels, and have great coverage.
<Lumafsck> refurb is risky
<bronaugh> so is buying new.
<Lumafsck> and that's too much overhead of administration
<jhcristy> nah left the pins on no hd in sight into config both gateway and dell one is a socket 7 though
<Lumafsck> buying new you have warranty and seller 30 day
<jhcristy> so celeron 400 thats 370 aint it?
<Lumafsck> what you are suggesting is a little pennyw-ise pound ***
<bronaugh> not really.
<bronaugh> buy 2.
<Lumafsck> but yes, 100 for a router is pricey
<bronaugh> if 1 fails, switch.
<Lumafsck> heh
<bronaugh> cost is still 2/5
<Lumafsck> i already have 1
<bronaugh> p(failure) is probably about 0.1
<Lumafsck> bronaugh: i think with this max thing you are getting range and speed
<bronaugh> therefore it is a good deal.
<bronaugh> you may be getting range
<bronaugh> but where does it state the txpower?
<bronaugh> where does it state the antenna gain
<bronaugh> RangeMax is a name I could put on anything, if Netgear hadn't trademarked it.
<Lumafsck> i dunno the specs are written for aol users, hang on
<Lumafsck> sure sure
<Lumafsck> sure there is a lot of marketing in there
<Lumafsck> but i have seen "benchmarks" and tons of positive testimonials :D
<Lumafsck> but again heh
<bronaugh> dude. gain and txpower.
<bronaugh> there's other parameters, but those are the ones that are easy to compare.
<bronaugh> if you don't have numbers, you don't have much to go on.
<Lumafsck> you raise a good point
<jhcristy> how do i get a file editor in linux?
<Lumafsck> they avoid tangible stats in that dept.
<Lumafsck> jhcristy: type pico
<Lumafsck> in cnet or on netgear.com
<Lumafsck> so far that i see
<bronaugh> Lumafsck: so in the absence of comparison data, you're left with -one- metric -- price.
<Lumafsck> bronaugh: something with 7 antennas, uses 802.11g (whch i don't have now), and _seems_ to have better range is still probably a good thing
<bronaugh> once it has all the features you need (which may cull some devices) the remaining metric is price
<Lumafsck> sure i can put another linksys in my room from the ethernet line, but then i have to manage 2 separate routers
<Lumafsck> if this works as good, it is a better idea
<bronaugh> you could relay over wifi.
<bronaugh> thus no extra wires.
<Lumafsck> you mean a repeater?
<bronaugh> yup.
<muii> When I update my kernel using yum ,, my installed nvidia graphics drivers stay the same right?
<bronaugh> you can configure at least some APs to do that.
<Lumafsck> does linksys make them
<Lumafsck> oh i see
<Lumafsck> i coudl just get an linksys ap
<bronaugh> I recall that after my friend Taras flashed DLink firmware onto his Linksys router, he was able to.
<Lumafsck> no wires
<Lumafsck> heh we've been talkin about this all day now ; ]
<Lumafsck> i think i will get the 20 dollar dlink for my friend and keep researching for me : D
<Lumafsck> from tiger direct
<bronaugh> ok, good stuff.
<bronaugh> I just want you to make a rational decision is all.
<Lumafsck> bronaugh: you are the frugal tech
<bronaugh> an rational and informed one.
<Lumafsck> like the frugal gormet
<bronaugh> pretty much.
<Lumafsck> i know that you're saying
<Lumafsck> alot of it is marketing
<Lumafsck> but i read one review from a person
<Lumafsck> that sounded like it worked faster and further range
<Lumafsck> which is what i would love to have
<bronaugh> 1 review doesn't really mean much.
<Lumafsck> but 100usd is not nothin
<bronaugh> there's so many confounding variables anyhow.
<Lumafsck> true
<bronaugh> he could have changed the orientation of the antennas
<Lumafsck> the repeater idea sounds keen
<bronaugh> it's an idea
<Lumafsck> i wounder in the dlink one is good for the xbox performance
<Lumafsck> he wants to play online games with that
<Lumafsck> that is a really good price, 21.99
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