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<cowman> it takes me a minute to get this, I have to terminal in to copy/paste it as the system I'm working on doesn't have an irc client or browser on it yet
<mwilson> Ok, nvidia_drv isn't where it's supposed to be.
<cowman> ok
<cowman> how do I fix that?
<mwilson> By putting it where it's supposed to be.
<cowman> well... yeah
<mwilson> Please don't tell me you used nVidia's installer.
<cowman> why wouldn't I use it?
<mwilson> Why would you? It's crap.
<cowman> heh, never heard that before
<cowman> I've used it on other systems and it's worked fine.... but anyway
<mwilson> I find that hard to believe.
<cowman> which part
<mwilson> You claimed it ran to completion? Where did it put nvidia_drv, then?
<Redb3ard> cowman, im generally pretty handy with linux, next year marks 10 years of use for me, i think
<Redb3ard> and there is one secret more useful than any other, that i will let you in on
<Redb3ard> any time that the installation process is not "tar blah.tar.gz; cd blah; ./configure; make; make install;" be afraid
<cowman> /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
<cowman> found those
<mwilson> You're not running the i386 X server, are you?
<cowman> I really shouldn't be
<cowman> it's an x86_64 distro
<mwilson> Don't know what it is. It has Sarge's X, supposedly, but this isn't Sarge's kernel.
<cowman> yeah I built the kernel
<mwilson> a 16-bit kernel?
<mwilson> 32-bit, rather?
<cowman> cowman@intrepid:~$ uname -a
<cowman> Linux intrepid 2.6.13.4 #1 SMP Wed Oct 26 19:48:10 CDT 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
<mwilson> ModulePath looks weird.
<muii> what about apt-get or yum installs?
<muii> I love using them - arent they well made?
<mwilson> You again?
<mwilson> cowman: You're not specifying 64-bit modules as available to be installed.
<cowman> ?
<mwilson> Seemed a rather clear statement.
<cowman> alright, where do I specify that?
<mwilson> The driver is in lib64, you're not telling the X server it can get modules out of lib64.
<muii> there grrrrrrrreat
<mwilson> ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules"
<mwilson> In your Files section.
<cowman> in the XFree86config-4 ?
<cowman> allright, I see it
<cowman> well neat, my error message changed
<mwilson> Since you used the nVidia installer, it didn't set the kenrel module up properly to be autoloaded, so explicitly load it yourself now, and add it to /etc/modules
<cowman> what do I put in /etc/modules? nvidia_drv ?
<mwilson> If I remember right, the installer isn't SO broken that it doesn't create the entries in /dev, but you could look to be sure.
<cowman> I thought the kernel module was just named 'nvidia'
<mwilson> # modprobe nvidia, then see if X will start
<mwilson> The *kernel* module is. The X11 driver is not.
<mwilson> The X11 driver is nvidia_drv
<cowman> gotcha
<cowman> it still doesn't work, it looks like other modules arn't loading now
<sinthetek> how do you make drop down menus whose contents are influenced by selections in previous dropdown menus using (X)HTML?
<mwilson> List both lib and lib64, then.
<sinthetek> if someone could point me to a term or something to search for, it would be appreciated
<sinthetek> not even sure if you can make dropdown lists like that in xhtml/html
<cowman> houston, we have a splash-screen :)
<cowman> I think it's working
<cowman> thanks
<Mike-_> hey does n e one know where default location of the cgi-bin is located
<Mike-_> im tring to install a cgi script
<mwilson> "n e"?
<mwilson> Everyone gets to guess what web server and what distribution you're using, right?
<Mike-_> red hat 7.3 and apache
<Revie> .........
<mwilson> Of course, it's too much to ask that you actually learn how to administer Apache, right?
<mwilson> Actually, I'm going to help the entire Internet, by not giving you any help whatsoever with such old crap as DeadRat 7.3
<Mike-_> i know how to get apache workin i know nuthing about cgi
<mwilson> Mike-_: Meaning that you don't know anything about Apache.
<mwilson> Mike-_: You could just say that, you know.
<Mike-_> ya
<mwilson> Or do you really not understand that Apache's configuration controls where the cgi-bin directory is?
<mwilson> Whoops, broke my own rule.
<Mike-_> well hey now would just be alot easier to say its in the apache conf
<Mike-_> that simple
<mwilson> You were the moron claiming he knew about Apache.
<Mike-_> ya ok
<sinthetek> is it just me or is mwilson getting worse?
<mwilson> I don't claim to be able to administer Apache, yet even I can figure that one out.
<Mike-_> go rub one out to some more internet porn
<Redb3ard> i was having fun kicking people
<Redb3ard> this ****s
<Redb3ard> hot damn
<Redb3ard> looks like ill get another chance
<mwilson> what is it with all this "scary" stuff? Halloween is TOMORROW.
<gavagai> it's halloween where i live
<Redb3ard> bah
<Redb3ard> mwilson, i never did here if you cared for strategy games
<mwilson> I found warcraft exceedingly boring... never seen C&C.
<Redb3ard> C&C was like warcraft, but with 21st century combat, helicopters, tanks, etc
<steg> we got a few chancers trying to "trick-or-treat" yesterday
<mwilson> But I'll play freeciv for hours and hours.
<Redb3ard> why freeciv, but never warcraft?
<mwilson> warcraft is boring. freeciv isn't.
<mwilson> or not as much.
<mwilson> Lately I set up the PXE-bootable nethack so I could play it wherever I wanted. :)
<mwilson> Unfortunately, you can't save games that way.
<mwilson> I'm just waiting for one of the teachers at the school I volunteer at to realize it's there. :)
<Redb3ard> fair enough answer, just wondering if there was more to it
<mwilson> I never could see the point to Warcraft, thus it was always boring.
<Redb3ard> i dont like alot of things about warcraft, but i think i know how id fix them
<TINFURY> Hi all
<NoobieDoobie> h
<NoobieDoobie> hi even.
<TinFury> There was a command that I used to use to tell if a service has started... stopped or is set to start at boot
<TinFury> What could it be?
<TinFury> I use RedHat core 3 by the way
<TinFury> Anyone?
<NoobieDoobie> sorry
<NoobieDoobie> i was thinking. have you asked google?
<TinFury> I found it
<TinFury> It's /sbin/chkconfig
<zxcpoi> how can I change the permision to a file so It can be writeable
<zxcpoi> ?
<zxcpoi> so anybody ?
<TinFury> Hi
<TinFury> Writable by who?
<TinFury> chmod
<zxcpoi> how can I change the permision to a file so It can be writeable ?
<tojoe> zxcpoi man chmod
<Valk`> X worked before the weekend, nothing changed and now it won't run. Checked log and it says that no screens found. It tries to probe my geforce 3 and it can
<Valk`> can't find it.
<hakkrdan> hi.
<Redb3ard> hey hakkr
<Redb3ard> guess im not the only one up this late
<hakkrdan> How goes it.
<hakkrdan> haha
<hakkrdan> I just got back into town
<Redb3ard> im checking out a game engine i found
<hakkrdan> ah.
<muii> ok, I think I am going to go with BSD instead of linux..
<Redb3ard> http://www.glest.org/en/gallery.html
<muii> FreeBSD 6, as a desktop
<Redb3ard> why not?
<LadyByte> because I don't like you
<Redb3ard> anything not windows is pretty tolerable
<muii> well I like the way a heard some one describe the differance between linux and bsd
<muii> makes me kinda wanna switch and give it a try
<muii> would FreeBSD be better then Darwin?
<Redb3ard> beats me
<Redb3ard> both are undoubtedly better than windows
<ngine> hi all, I want to learn programming. is Python good? whats its pros and cons from others? thanks..
<hakkrdan> herro
<Redragon^> doing really cool things with the firewall management in hh
<hakkrdan> werd.
<hakkrdan> brb.
<Redragon^> and even shortened up the code some hehe
<hakkrdan> hi.
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